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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Don X, Oct 11, 2021.

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    Don X

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    I'm installing new oil lines on my f134. The fitting on the timing chain is boogered up. It has a hex head on it but it's brass so it's rounding when I try to loosen it and doesn't budge at all.

    Is it a straightforward thread? I'm about to try vice grips but don't want to damage the TC cov 20211011_124129_compress53.jpg 20211011_124102_compress4.jpg er threads.
     
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    timgr

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    PeteL

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    NO! :shock:

    That is a factory fitting, and is brazed in.
     
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    Jeepenstein

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    as thin wall and soft as that is you may not get it off and have to drill it out and re tap..
     
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    Oldpappy

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    Too late Pete, looks like that fitting is FUBAR and no longer even round inside. A new fitting will need to be brazed on to the cover, or look for another cover with a good fitting.
     
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    Glenn

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    Rookie! Gear. :lol::)
     
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    Don X

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    Crap. Now I have to figure out how to remove the pulleys.
     
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    Oldpappy

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    It is a gear cam cover, but I got one in the shed that had the same, but was a chain drive cam engine when I took it off. I have the right cover for that older engine, so I happen to have an extra gear drive cover that may have a better fitting if Don needs it.
     
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    Don X

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    So it's brazed for sure? Any idea why it has a hex head?
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Yes it's brazed, or maybe soldered, either way definitely not screwed in. Hex head? Probably just a stock catalog fitting, I'm guessing a reverse flare (3/16"?) to 1/8" NPT, chaeper than machinng up a special fitting. Yhe output fitting on the gas tank is the same type of deal- hex but soldered to the tank.

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    That's my memory. Does it looks gold like brass, or silver like solder?
     
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    Glenn

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    Because it is still a fitting and needs a wrench on it.
     
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    Don X

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    I haven't cleaned it so I don't know. Looks like I need to replace the cover.
     
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    Don X

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    PM sent.
     
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    Oldpappy

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    These and the one on the fuel tank have a hex head so you can hold them in place while you tighten in the fitting for the line without stressing the soldered joint.

    I responded to the PM, will check what I have in the shed, if good will send that one, or go take a look at the half dozen engines I have out in the barn.
     
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    Oldpappy

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    Crank pulleys are funny. Sometimes they come off easy, sometime not.

    I have not had good luck getting one that is really stuck off without bending it, so you might have to buy a new one.

    One thing that helps is after you remove the nut use a piece of wood maybe a 2x2 and rap that with a hammer on the face of the pulley in a Y pattern to try to loosen it up before you put a puller on it. May help to squirt some penetrating oil in the bore and around the key way.

    Of course you will want to put a new seal in the timing cover when putting it back together.
     
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    jeep2003

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    id just solder a new one on top of the old one but i suppose its a good time to check or change the timing set if youve never had it apart
     
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    Oldpappy

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    He has a good cover in route. I would not toss that one with the messed up fitting, I would solder or braze a new fitting into it but I would have to have it off the Jeep and thoroughly cleaned up to do it.
     
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