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Buick Fireball 225?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Neal A, Sep 4, 2021.

  1. Sep 4, 2021
    Neal A

    Neal A New Member

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    I’ve run across an advertisement for a 1964 Buick fireball 225 for sale. Is this the same engine as the dauntless 225, and would it be a suitable replacement for my Jeep.
     
  2. Sep 4, 2021
    Daryl

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    The silly names that Jeep labeled motors with were nothing but marketing. A Buick v6 is a Buick v6 whether it was in a Jeep, Pontiac, Cadillac, Chevy, Oldsmobile or a Buick. Most interchange. The 61-63 198 uses a different bellhousing. Remember that any motor that is 40 to 60 years old is most likely just a core until proven otherwise.
     
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    duffer

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    If it is actually a V6 and 1964, yes. Same engine.
     
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    Neal A

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    Thanks for the help!
     
  5. Sep 4, 2021
    homersdog

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    Here is a Dauntless, umm, errr 225 fireball in its native habitat (picture downloaded from Barnfinds):

    [​IMG]
     
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    Jonbbrew

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    1962/1963 were the 198, so a 1964 would be the start of the 225...IMO....I love my little rare 198 Oddball...
     
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    Dan Lockwood

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    Is the '77'ish 231 V6 used in Olds Omega (their version of the Chevy Nova) the same and use the same BOP bellhousing as the Dauntless/Fireball motors?
     
  8. Oct 12, 2021
    boopiejones

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    I believe the fireball is the 198 and the dauntless is the 225. I have the 198 and it’s fine, but I don’t think I’d purposely buy one because it’s sort of a rare motor and parts can be difficult to find… some, but not all, external parts are compatible between the 198 and the 225.
     
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    Fireball

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    Yes, the motor mounts and bellhousing are the same as the Dauntless 225. It will bolt right in. A 1977 engine could be either even or odd fire. If it's even fire, you will need and even fire flywheel or will need to have a Dauntless flywheel balanced to match the even fire engine.

    This is incorrect. Buick called all their V6s "Fireball" 198 or 225. My Dad has a 225 Fireball V6 with the original air cleaner decal from a '65 Skylark. That's where my screen name comes from. The Dauntless name was only used by Jeep.
     
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    Oldpappy

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    When I was a teenager I had a 64 Buick Special with the 225, it was even the same color as the Buick Homersdog posted a picture of.

    Loved that car, spent hard earned money from doing yard work to "fix it up" with a custom steering wheel and 8 track tape player. I was thinking of it as "my car", but I came home from school one day and Dad had sold it. He didn't offer me anything for the upgrades though.
     
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    Jeepenstein

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    And here I just assumed...
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    Fireball

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    Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. I like my whiskies pure.
     
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    Oldpappy

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    I don't like flavored whiskey, or coffee, but that was funny.
     
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    timgr

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    The Fireball nips (50 ml) seem very popular around here. The little plastic containers litter the bushes near the streets - I presume they are bought to skirt the open container law. Open the sealed container, down the whiskey, toss the container in the bushes by the road. Leaves your breath cinnamon-y fresh.

    66 proof is watery. Not technically a whiskey, with a minimum of 80 proof.

    I've thought about putting away a case of it in small bottles as trade goods in case of an emergency. Popular but too awful to be tempted.
     
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    Jeepenstein

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    I loves me some Bourbon..
     
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