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So A Nice Sbc Fell Into My Lap? Maybe Mate It To My Ford T18 In My Cj6?

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by dsrt4, Jun 24, 2021.

  1. Jun 24, 2021
    dsrt4

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    This is all up in the air right now but I have a nice Jegs 383 SBC new in the crate engine fall into my lap. I got it so cheap I am sure I could flip it and make some money but I'm contemplating putting it into my CJ6 Project. I currently have a 304 mated to a ford t18 short input shaft with a t150 bellhousing in the jeep.

    I see on Novak's website this is supposed to be a easy swap by just using a Chevy bell housing and some other inexpensive bits plus cheepo speedway conversion engine mounts. Aluminum radiators seem to be cheap enough as well. The goal is to use a Holley sniper setup on the jeep no matter what the engine is. I am going for a nice daily or fair weather driver and occasional trail use.

    The 304 will probably find a home in a Gremlin I have on the back burner..



    That all being said.. for folks that have done a SBC swap with this trans what specific Chevy bellhousing did you use? What clutch and pressure plate setup did you use to work with the Chevy flywheel? I am using a 76+ cj clutch kit right now if that make any difference.

    Like I said..It's all up in the air but danged if it isnt tempting.. If I could make it work without much hassle I am interested in doing it and saving the 304 for another project.


    Anyone have any experience with a sbc chevy swap to a t18 like how mine is set up?
     
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  2. Jun 25, 2021
    Fireball

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    I can't help with an SBC bellhousing recommendation, but if you want to see the Novak process to put a GM bellhousing on a Ford T18, you can look in my build thread starting here:
    I bought the bearing retainer from Novak since I didn't have any way to turn down my existing one.

    I made it a little harder on myself because I didn't like how Novak has you drill a threaded hole into the bellhousing where the is no cast in boss. Instead of doing that, I made a bridge piece to pick up both tabs on the transmission and the orginal bellhousing bolt location. I like it better, but it probably wasn't worth the effort. There are tones of Jeeps running around with no issues the way Novak says to do it.
     
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  3. Jun 25, 2021
    Keys5a

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    I've built my share of 383s (aka stroked 350) and they usually are approaching big block torque. In my opinion, this is not a good engine for a CJ unless you upgrade EVERYTHING. Your transmission will hold up, but the stock axles won't. That, and you'll need better brakes, etc. I would also recommend boxing the frame too (CJ6 is strapped?) Even a strong 350 is a lot of engine for a small, light CJ.
    Flip the 383 for a 327 or a very mild 350. Been there, done that (I had a '72 CJ5 with an AMX 390). The smaller small blocks are very well suited to the small jeeps.
    As far as the bellhousing, whats the stick-out of your T18? I have typically used either Muncie M21 or a T-10 behind sbc engines. I have modified Chevy (and AMC) bellhousings by turning a register ring to center a Ford (or other) trans in the Chev bellhousing, then drilled a to fit the Ford pattern. As far as the clutch, use the Chevy pressure plate and whatever disc matches the diameter and the Ford input splines. If you use a Chevy bellhousing and release arm, stick with the Chevy throwout bearing.
    The 304 is native in the Gremlin, and it will even be fine with a 360 if you upgrade a few things like Matador brakes and the cooling system. Automatic or T-10?
    Back in the day, my older brothers best friend drove home a factory new purple 401 Gremlin X. He waited on order for about a year. It was ordered as "off road only", but when it came in, it came with an MCO for a title.
    -Donny
     
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  4. Jun 25, 2021
    Mr Vaughan

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    i know a guy that could take that sbc off your hands...
     
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  5. Jun 25, 2021
    dsrt4

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    The frame has been fully boxed in with 1/8"plate from where it stops all the way to the rear bumper plus all rear crossmembers have been replaced with 2x2 square tubing. And the rear bumper is 2x4 1/4" square tubing. Plus the frame had the strip steel along the bottom replaced and re welded. I'd wager to bet the Frame wont even blink at a 383. My Input shaft is the short ford shaft like Novak talks about I just don't know really what year bellhousing they are using to specifically get that exact one. What year housing did you get Fireball?
     
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  6. Jun 25, 2021
    Desert Runner

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    Personally Personally I would use the Chevy to T150 bellhousing from Novak and just redrill or elongate a couple of the holes to make it fit the T18. This should also allow you to keep the existing clutch petal and linkage
    JMHO
     
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  7. Jun 25, 2021
    Jw60

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    Just do it.
     
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  8. Jun 26, 2021
    Fireball

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    My bellhousing is for a late '60's vintage Buick car. Any late 60's/early 70's Chevy manual bellhousing for a car transmission should work. Not sure about Chevy bellhousings for truck transmissions. They may b different.
     
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  9. Jun 26, 2021
    Jw60

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    Truck bellhousing would need the index ring. I beleave car bellhousing would need machine work on both the bellhousing bore and the Transmission bearing retainer.

    Desert runner is planning a very similar swap.
     
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