Steering Gear To Repair ... Questions

My CJ5 is a little bit difficult to stay in line, there is some degrees with no contact with the wheels.
I checked the wheels connections and it is ok.
The problem is inside the gearing box.
If I screw a little bit more the steering wheel becomes too hard.
When I adjust the screw, it is soft but too much.
I cannot get a good contact.
I suppose that something is worn...
I have the manual, page 314 there is a good picture, and I find the explanations in English, a little bit difficult.
It seems that this system is the same as on the WWII Willys, or similar ??
Maybe I can get parts for Willys.
But... I seems a little bit difficult to change these parts, I am not a specialist.
I'll look at all solutions, inside the forum there are some good informations.
Of course I can go on driving like this, I just have to correct a little bit...
I could also pay a specialist!
By the way, we have some nice days, after weeks of rain.
All is green, my wife manages the lawnmower...
Storms are coming in 5 days, so we hurry up to clean the garden for summer...

 

I can see this :
WOA1519 - DIRECTION JEEP MB/GPW RENOVEE A NEUF NET - JEEPEST

 

Alan,
you have the original Ross steering of which there are loads of threads on our website. Basically the same from 1941-1971. It was an ancient design. Lots of guys convert to "Saginaw" steering which is a more modern steering box from General Motors. It is a fairly complex job to change over but a great improvement.

You can rebuild your Ross box but most of the parts these days are reproduction from China, not reliable.

Walcks makes a product called "tight steer" which is design to eliminate the adjustment problems of the Ross box. It is a bit expensive though, and I don't know if they will ship to Europe.

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If that is a rebuilt unit ask them where they source their parts.

 

Thanks, I remember this "tight steer" and probably when I pay I receive goods.
I don't know if it is a solution..;
I am not sure to be able to change this part, or replace the system Ross by a Saginaw.
I need the good tools, and I am not sure to succeed, if I loose parts, it seems there are many small ones...
I'll look at the" tight steer" and asks me questions to them.
I could also bring my Jeep to the Jeepest shop, they work only on WWII Jeep and French Willys, but parts are the same so maybe.
The problem is that the boss is unpleasant and is busy with WWII Jeep look, people pay a lot to have a sham D Day Jeep with star and US texts...
I can also make a deal with his ex- worker, he is retire red but he loves so much my € bank-notes that my test is not 100%.

 

Yes I can ask, but as said above, the boss is not very lovely.
They have lot of parts from French army Willys, maybe they are good parts!

 

I put the "tight steer on my 64 cj5. It had lots of slack that the adjusting screw would not take care of. The tight steer is simple to put on, and it helped a lot. Stopped the wandering on the road. Very simple to put on , about 10 minutes...

 

I thank you for answer and I understand whey people install an other system like Saginaw. it is difficult for me to understand well technical English, this is why there are professional of translation... well paid. I worked in translation business a little bit so I know.
What I understand is that "New Old Parts" are of low quality...
I understand very well what becomes the "worm" system in the steering gear after years of use, it is worn.
Maybe I can try this "tight steer" if they send it, if I pay UPS it will come. I suppose.
If I pay the specialist Jeep here, I not sure of them.
It is not a Ferrari 1960, but they like to charge a lot.
They can prefabricate parts, and charge 2000 €... Minimum.
And I can find "old" parts worse than mine!
I'll inflate tires a little bit more and make a new test... And wait for Walck answer...

 

If they can send it by UPS, it will be cheaper for me than any other action.
I am not sure that I can find it in France, but maybe, if it goes on Willys and French army old Jeep, it can exists somewhere, but never saw it.

 

OK! The explanation was not obvious, "From Old Stock" would be maybe better, this is the difficulty for me to understand English subtleties.

 

Ordered today... we'll see

 

ordered today at Walck ... new adventure

 

I just received it by post so maybe I can be helped, the note is a little bit hard to understand...

 

received but trying to understand...

 

The Ross steering box works well when put into good condition and maintained properly. A lot of people put grease into these when they start to leak, and while the grease may slow the leaks, it does not properly lubricate the unit, and will cause it to wear out faster. A rebuilt unit with properly sized bushings, new seals, and gasket will not leak and should be filled with 140wt gear oil not grease of any kind.

Properly reaming the bushings is something a lot of people skip or do wrong when attempting to rebuild one of these things. If the old worn out bushings are left in it will lead to earlier failure of the seal.

I have never tried the Tight Steer unit, but am thinking of trying one after watching a video. The steering box in my CJ5 is in pretty good shape, doesn't leak much, but does have a little bit of slop. I may try one of these devices to see if a rebuild can be put off for a while.

 

The tight steer unit goes in place of the standard adjustment screw and lock nut on the ross box.

 

Good. The text is a little bit difficult for me to understand, I'll study this carefully and check oil.