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Leaf spring shackle bolts

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Mudweiserjeep, Apr 5, 2005.

  1. Apr 5, 2005
    Mudweiserjeep

    Mudweiserjeep JEEP: Bouncy and Fun

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    I am at work and I am going by the hardware store on the way home, I want to pick up some new shackle bolts.

    Does anyone know off hand what size (length / size 3/8"?) bolts I need. 1970 CJ5 w/BDS 2.5" springs, stock shackles.

    Any help......thanks
     
  2. Apr 5, 2005
    sternbal

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    If they are the same as intermediates, they are 7/16 (fine thread). Then figure 1 3/4 long for the spring, another 1/2 for shackle, and enough for the nut. So, 2.75" long. 2.5" may be enough.
     
  3. Apr 5, 2005
    Old Bill

    Old Bill Aggressively passive....

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    7/16 fine thread, 3" long IIRC. Leaves just enough for a washer on each side and a metal locking nut. You are planning on using grade 8, aren't you?
     
  4. Apr 5, 2005
    speedbuggy

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    Be sure to use grade 8 hardware ;)
     
  5. Apr 5, 2005
    Mudweiserjeep

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    I think I will go for the 2.75" -to -3" depending on the amount of theads....better to have alittle extra.
    Yes I am going to use grade 8 bolts.

    Thanks
     
  6. Apr 5, 2005
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    Just curious, why grade 8? Will a lower grade shear or something?
     
  7. Apr 5, 2005
    67cj5

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    Actually grade 8 is for tensile strength, Grade 5 is for shear strength. If you want a strong bolt for a leaf spring, look at the grade 5 bolts. Grade 8 would be for stuff like bumper bolts where the pull would be end to end not on the side of the shank.
     
  8. Apr 5, 2005
    181jeep

    181jeep Banned

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    There is no (zero) tension on a shackle bolt only shear. Not counting the tension from tightening the nut. Use hard bolts. Make sure they are long enough to keep the threads out of the shear. Nuts should almost touch the threads.

    JB
     
  9. Apr 6, 2005
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    No,No,No, this is a myth, who keeps perpetuating this?????
    A grade 5 will have reached its yield strength surpassd that and sheared off before a grade 8 bolt begans to deform or yield. A grade 5 bolt is not superior to a grade 8 in any condition at all period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The shear of a grade 5 bolt in 7/16" is 11,270# , the same size grade 8 is 13,680# the tension on the same grade 5 bolt is 13,338# the grade 8 is 16,673#, so you can see the grade 5 would have already failed befoer the grade 8 started to deform.

    To all in doubt read this article; http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/fasteners/index.asp or break out a machinist handbook.
     
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