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large hole transfer case

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by kamel, Apr 1, 2005.

  1. Apr 1, 2005
    kamel

    kamel Senior Curmudgeon

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    does anyone know approximately when they went with the large hole transfer case for the model 18?

    I have three transmission / transfer case assemblies, and I'm trying to get a feel as to which, if any are the large hole cases.

    thanks

    kamel
     
  2. Apr 1, 2005
    greencj5

    greencj5 Member

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    According to info from Novak, D18 cases behind all engines except the v-6 had the small bore ( 3 5/8") index hole. The v-6 had the large ( 4" ) bore only from the factory. What transmissions are attached?. Any t-case with the T-14 will probably be the large bore because it was only used with the v-6 ( my set up in my '69). There is also a thread showing differences between early and late model D18 cases (back a week or two). :coffee:
     
  3. Apr 1, 2005
    H8PAVMNT

    H8PAVMNT Rub his head for luck

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    This has been my thinking until Billy rebuilt his D18 behind a :hurrican:

    If I'm not mistaken he said his was a large hole in a '61.

    Maybe he can confirm this or clarify if it was original to his JEEP.
     
  4. Apr 1, 2005
    Mudweiserjeep

    Mudweiserjeep JEEP: Bouncy and Fun

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    I don't know about years used or changed but heres a pic of the 2. The large hole was mounted behind my T-14a and if you notice in the pic there is an adapter ring that i am guessing made it a small hole so it would work in my V6/T-14a/D-18 set up (stock) 1970 CJ5.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Apr 1, 2005
    H8PAVMNT

    H8PAVMNT Rub his head for luck

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    Nice job Tim. Thanks for great pics.
     
  6. Apr 1, 2005
    H8PAVMNT

    H8PAVMNT Rub his head for luck

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    And a pic of mine behind a T-14AA

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  7. Apr 1, 2005
    kamel

    kamel Senior Curmudgeon

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    Is it safe to assume that the large hole was only used on the t-14 application, or was it used with the T-86 too?

    I saw the two pictures -- is it safe to assume one can tell a large hole from a small one by the shape of the transfer case?

    If so, then I have a bunch of small hole transfer cases, and zero large hole transfer cases.

    Zero - I counted them twice.

    I am working on getting a T-98 from 2wd to 4wd, and have access to a large hole adapter. I'm just trying to make certain that I can use the adapter on a T-98. I can get a large hole T/C - that isn't the problem.

    If the large hole adapter is unique to the T-14, then the bolt pattern of the adapter-to-transmission could be different from the T-86, and if it is different it would not fit on the T-98.

    Or, perhaps the bolt pattern on the rear of the T-14 is the same as a T-86, and then everything will fit perfectly.

    Unfortunately, the adapter in question is no where close to me, so I'm doing all this by phone.

    any further input would be appreciated.


    I already have the front input shaft and bearing retainer, so it is the adapter for the transfer case that I am working on.
     
  8. Apr 1, 2005
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    large hole with T86?
    affirmative, they use a bearing adapter to mate to large hole
     
  9. Apr 1, 2005
    H8PAVMNT

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    Is the adapter like what Tim posted on the left? I didn't have that 'ring'. Maybe it supposed to be there and isn't. Shoot, the JEEP sure has ran good for missing that part.
     
  10. Apr 1, 2005
    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    confirmed :stout:
     
  11. Apr 1, 2005
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    T86 version pictured below
    big difference between T90 and T14
     
  12. Apr 1, 2005
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    But you can put the T-86 bearing retainer on the back of a T-90 and and use a large hole transfer case :) . Nickmil.
     
  13. Apr 1, 2005
    greencj5

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    Great pics Mudwieser. Some one pointed out the different case shapes as well in a previous thread. Does any know if the earlier case shape on the right (twin sticks) ever came as a large bore unit? Just curious.
     
  14. Apr 2, 2005
    67cj5

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    I can confirm the t 86 is a large bore, if that helps at all.
     
  15. Apr 2, 2005
    kamel

    kamel Senior Curmudgeon

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    Back to the two pictures posted here on an earlier post.

    Is it safe to assume that ALL large hole cases look like the large hole case in the picture and ALL small hole cases look like the small hole case in the picture.

    I'm not talking about the size of the hole, but, note the shape of the top of the casing as you move from right to left.

    That way one could tell large hole/small hole from just looking at the case when it is attached to the transmission.
     
  16. Apr 2, 2005
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    On another note about the shape, being aware when looking at an OD of whether or not it's a front or rear output shift setup has been discussed. A design change in the shape of the t-case was mentioned, is the larger/higher area of the top of the large hole case the afforementioned change?
     
  17. Apr 3, 2005
    Project71-5

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    The "ring" in the first picture is the bearing retainer for the rear main bearing of the T-14a. My 71 has the large hole case and bearing retainer.
     
  18. Apr 4, 2005
    kamel

    kamel Senior Curmudgeon

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