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AMC V8 oil pan protection?

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by nwedgar, May 28, 2015.

  1. May 28, 2015
    nwedgar

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    The only thing I've ever found online is "gluing" a homemade piece of steel to the oil pan with silicone caulk. I'm leery of this due to heat build up as well as oil on the pan, both of which could interfere with long term adherence to the pan.

    Seems like its the most vulnerable piece on the jeep underside so...

    Is anything else out there? Or other ideas?
     
  2. May 28, 2015
    nickmil

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    take oil pan off, build skid plate, weld skid plate to pan, re-install.
     
  3. May 28, 2015
    timgr

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    I have never heard of AMC V8 oil pan damage. Possible I suppose.

    The 232s/258s have a reinforced bottom ... as Nick describes, a plate welded to the bottom of the pan. But these engines have a sump that sticks down further than the V8, IIRC.

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  4. May 28, 2015
    rejeep

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    transDapt makes an aftermarket unit that it beefy...

    after a hole in pan put my 258 YJ out of commission I went and built a separate engine skid...
     
  5. May 28, 2015
    uncamonkey

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    I was out driving in my MB and had a piece of rebar bounce off of the front of the skidplate, a nice 3/4" hole in the front of the oil pan. A friend was driving to Holy Cross City. Smacked the pan down on his 232. The skid plate sprang back and pulled 2 spot welds out of the oilpan. Long tow back to Vail where we could fix it. To add insult to injury, the tow vehicle was a '64 Scout. It did have a Chevy motor in it.
     
  6. May 28, 2015
    zila

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    FGWIW I have a dent in my oil pan.. Nothing major but a dent none the less
     
  7. May 28, 2015
    OleBlue

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  8. May 29, 2015
    nwedgar

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    Yike$$$! I think I'd rather try welding a piece of steel to the pan.
     
  9. May 30, 2015
    OleBlue

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    The Trans Dapt pan felt thicker gauge than OE.
     
  10. Jun 8, 2015
    Craig1953

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    I have a 74 CJ5 with the 232 inline 6. It has the protective plate spot-welded to the bottom of the oil pan. But I found recently that this creates its own problem. A couple of months ago on an easy trail, without hitting anything, oil started running out from between the pan and the plate. You couldn't see any sign of damage or a strike. I assumed that one of the spot-welds had broken, which was confirmed when the pan was removed. I took the pan in and had the hole and weld repaired. Then just a couple of weeks ago my son and his buddies were 4-wheeling in the East Mojave and oil started running out from between the bottom of the pan and the protective plate. This time there was a strike mark on the edge of the plate, so they must have hit something. When the pan was removed it showed that the repaired weld was still good, but another of the original spot-welds had pulled out leaving a pea-sized hole. I replaced the whole pan. But it does make me think that the protective plate may be more of a detriment than protection. Depending on what you hit, without the plate the pan would probably just dent. On the other hand, if you get hit on the plate, the welds can break and you're out of luck with a hole in the pan.
     
  11. Jun 8, 2015
    duffer

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    Not AMC, but what I built for my 3B:

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    3/16" plate. Went on its first engine in about 1975 and is now on its third. The extra tab was added to protect the drain plug and temp sensor. Never any leaks and just enough space to power wash most of the debris out.
     
  12. Jun 8, 2015
    tarry99

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    Like Nick Stated Above..............

    This one is on my CJ-5 that I built many years ago for my Buick V6 out of .125 Steel material. It also has some extra adds inside the pan like a modified windage tray to keep oil around the oil pickup tube & screen for those steep climbs & side hills , also a kick out and gate that allows another quart and a half to the pan capacity while not allowing it to slosh around in the pan. Keeping oil at the pickup at all times is obviously important , the kick out adds extra capacity but also plays another important part by keeping the oil temp down due to the extra pan area and fluid volume...........

    Not to say you need to do all this , just giving you some Ideas.

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  13. Jun 8, 2015
    cj6/442

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    oooooooo ^ I like that
     
  14. Jun 8, 2015
    uncamonkey

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    Looks good, You can never have enough oil. My Fuso diesel 4 cyl takes 11.6 quarts. About the only thing I would have done is to protect the drain plug a bit better. I have to say I have never smacked a V6 oil pan down, yet. Did a few times on the L134.
     
  15. Jun 8, 2015
    tarry99

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    Have yet to ever touch that plug..........not a mark on it.......I would have welded a ring around it then......Maybe the next guy who inherits it will need to????????????he's a little Rough!
     
  16. Jun 9, 2015
    uncamonkey

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    Yeah, I was thinking about a couple big washers welded on. I'm not too worried about the Fuso FG. There's enough space under the oil pan to put a 5 gal bucket there and still get the plug out. I've probably scraped more dirt off of my Chevy van and Volvo drain plugs. I do tend to take them where I probably shouldn't.
     
  17. Jun 10, 2015
    Dphillip

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    I did the adhesive route on the pan of my auto tranny. It's been on several years with no sign of adhesive failure. Just to be safe I did add some safety wire to hold the pan on just in case.
     
  18. Jun 10, 2015
    cj6/442

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    Tarry I will let that slide since it's your Bday ........
     
  19. Jun 10, 2015
    tarry99

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    Huh?
     
  20. Jun 11, 2015
    lynn

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    Some really cool mods in this thread! fb
    If anyone decides to go the adhesive route, I suggest using polysulfide as the adhesive.
    We use it on Bradley Fighting vehicles at work... and it's fuel/oil resistant; it can be used to seal an active fuel leak.
     
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