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Measuring for a Soft top

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Long&Low, Mar 9, 2015.

  1. Mar 9, 2015
    Long&Low

    Long&Low Active Member

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    OK, so I have a '67 CJ, the windshield is from a YJ, so it leans back.

    I was fully expecting to get a measurement for a soft top, which is back of windshield to rear of tub of 67.5", which is for a '76-83 CJ5. Low and behold, mine measures at 69.5" which is for a 55-75 CJ5. Shouldn't my leaned back windshield mean I need a later version top?


    This confounds me, as my hard top is not for an early CJ5, but a later version......

    Early CJ5 have a nearly vertical windshield right?

    So, I can't quite figure this out, how does a later steel top fit, but the measurement for a soft tip means an earlier top will fit? I'm cornfused?

    Here' some pics of the Jeep to show the windshield lean...

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    The windshield is clearly not vertical like I've seen in most early CJ5's.......
     
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  2. Mar 10, 2015
    colojeepguy

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    Early CJ windshields aren't vertical, the windshield is at an angle matching the body line on the cowl just below the windshield.
    Later CJ's lean back at a greater angle.
    Do a google image search and you'll see what I mean.
    The interesting thing about yours is it appears to be a late model windshield frame (bottom wipers with the motor on the inside)
    but it's at the angle of an early....

    BTW, Nice looking CJ!
     
  3. Mar 10, 2015
    Glenn

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    I keep looking at the picture and like Doug said the windshield seems to have the lean of an early 5, but you say the top is for '76 up. And yes, definitely nice Jeep! :)
     
  4. Mar 10, 2015
    colojeepguy

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    How about some close up pics of the sides of your windshield frame and also the inside.
    I think you might have a late windshield that's been modified to work with an early top...
     
  5. Mar 10, 2015
    ODBuffalo

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    Not to get off subject, but is that a embossed "Jeep" on the side of the hood?
     
  6. Mar 10, 2015
    Keys5a

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    Doug gave the answer about the correct rake of the windshield on an Early CJ5. , at least up through the mid '70s.
    The windshield frame should be at exactly the same angle as the base hinge on the cowl. It looks like yours is very close, if not correct.
    -Donny
     
  7. Mar 10, 2015
    Long&Low

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    The windshield frame is off a YJ ('87-95).

    Well I'm betting based on the comments regarding the angle, the set up matches that of an early CJ5, and that I was told incorrectly regarding the hard top, that it is for an ECJ5, and not a later CJ5. Add with that the measurement set at 69.5" matches what should be that for a ECJ5. (windshield frame to rear lip of tub.

    So, it looks like I'll be picking up a soft top some time soon, and I know what to look for.

    Thanks for everyone's input, its appreciated.
     
  8. Mar 10, 2015
    Long&Low

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    yes, yes it is, after some fab work...

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Mar 10, 2015
    Zoomer

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    Does your windshield frame base rest flush against the body on the inside, where the W/S frame meets the body? Just wondering as the frame could be held up at the angle of an ECJ5 by being bolted to the top and not resting flush against the body.
     
  10. Mar 11, 2015
    army grunt

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    good looking jeep....
     
  11. Mar 11, 2015
    Long&Low

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    Yep its sitting flush on the inside.
     
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    Walt Couch

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    Isn't the top of the w/frame too narrow for the ecj5 soft top? Will probably make the door flap hang too low..
     
  13. Mar 11, 2015
    Glenn

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    Good point. That's another issue yet to deal with.
     
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    colojeepguy

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    That's why I wanted to see a close up of the sides of the windshield frame. Looks like metal has been added to make up the difference.
    Notice the different angles between the vertical side of the frame and the glass?
     
  15. Mar 11, 2015
    Glenn

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    All hardtops have some sort of "filler" sheet metal for windshield and door sealing, so his might be custom to fit the wrangler windshield. ;)
     
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    Zoomer

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    Top = Late
    Bottom = Early

    Trim Panels:

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    Glenn

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    Well, that takes care of it not being custom after all. Hmmm, the whole situation is interesting.
     
  18. Mar 11, 2015
    Long&Low

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    See that's my original point, my Meyer top has the later windshield filler pieces.....

    At the end of the day, it looks like measuring for the top all comes down to length from the top of the windshield frame to the rear of the tub. Later CJ5's measure 67.5", early ones measure 69.5"

    My measurement is 69.5" which means early top. At least that what Bestop tells me.....
     
  19. Mar 11, 2015
    Glenn

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    I understand the confusion, it's got us all a bit stumped. What do you plan to do about the windshield and soft top not matching?
     
  20. Mar 11, 2015
    Long&Low

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    Well, I'll remove the hard top filler pieces. The soft top comes with a channel that screws to the top of the windshield frame. I'm assuming the width will be close enough, all these tubs, are the same width, CJ5, CJ7, and YJ.
     
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