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Will a steering wheel melt?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by vanguard, Feb 1, 2005.

  1. Feb 1, 2005
    vanguard

    vanguard

    I'm having problems removing the steering wheel from the postal column I plan on using for my saginaw conversion. My homemade steering wheel puller worked fine on the stock column, but I've bent it into a pretzel trying to remove the wheel from the postal column.

    I'm considering using a propane/MAP torch to heat the hub, but I'm afraid the wheel might catch fire or melt. Not too concerned about the wheel itself as its already cracked and I'm not planning on using it.
     
  2. Feb 1, 2005
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Yep it will start to melt at about 350* buy 600* it will catch fire. Thats typical of plastics, I have put out alot of fires at work after we had to melt plastic out of the electrical boxes on our plastic molds and then rewire the hot runner system, did 2 molds last weekend!
     
  3. Feb 1, 2005
    linckeil

    linckeil Member

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    if you dont care about the wheel, heat up those splines. thats what i did with my postal column. it'll just smell really bad, but it wont catch fire. also, i tried a bunch of different pulling methods, but given i didnt care about the wheel, the easiest thing was to heat up the splines, then grab the shaft of the column and slide it into a vise (leave the vice loose) and pull the column toward you slamming the underside of the wheel against the jaws of the vice. mine popped off after some heat and 3-5 whacks. obviuosly if you want to keep the wheel, this is not the way to go....
     
  4. Feb 1, 2005
    linckeil

    linckeil Member

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    well mine never caught fire, but i concentrated the flame on the splines and tried my best to keep it off the plastic.
     
  5. Feb 1, 2005
    michigan_pinstripes

    michigan_pinstripes I'm not lost, I'm wandering

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    I ruined one by loosening the nut to the end, and hammering it (thinking the impact would knock it off the splines)! The nut jumped threads and is still crossthreaded to this day sitting in the garage :oops:
     
  6. Feb 1, 2005
    vanguard

    vanguard

    I've soaked the sucker in Liquid Wrench for about 4 days straight now. The top of my homemade puller is 1/4" flat stock and now its U-shaped. The stainless threaded rods are bent now as well. This dang wheel just doesn't want to budge.

    The good news is that my puller worked like a charm on my repro wheel so that came off without a problem.
     
  7. Feb 1, 2005
    $ sink

    $ sink Gazillians of posts

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    I removed mine by laying the whole column on the work bench with the wheel hanging off the edge. successive blows with a dead blow hammer to the underside of each spoke took the wheel off in about 3 minutes without further damage..... $.02
     
  8. Feb 1, 2005
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    My homemade puller uses 3/4" stock.;)
     
  9. Feb 1, 2005
    vanguard

    vanguard

    Not everybody has a bridgeport in the garage. :D
     
  10. Feb 1, 2005
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    Do you care about the wheel? if not, a sawzall or hacksaw will let you cut a releif cut into the steel hub of the wheel from the outside edge. Two cuts about 60* apart that allow you to grab the wheel and torque it such that you open the hub enough to let it slip off the splines. You diggin' my groove here :)
     
  11. Feb 1, 2005
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    True!!!
     
  12. Feb 1, 2005
    vanguard

    vanguard

    :D Wish I did, but then I wouldn't know what do to with it anyway. R)
     
  13. Feb 1, 2005
    jd7

    jd7 Sponsor

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    copied one off of Vern's site used 2x6 oak worked good haven't broke one in a long time. ;)
     
  14. Feb 1, 2005
    vanguard

    vanguard

    Mine's similar to that, but its made of metal. I used two 1.5" muffler clamps, some grade five bolts, some light tabs and some stainless threaded rod I had laying around and a piece of 1/4" flat stock. Cost was about $10.

    Gave me a chance to burn off some flux core wire. The welds are ugly, but they held (well at least the second did on one side) :D
     
  15. Feb 1, 2005
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    i just gave up and got a different colum. funny thing is my shaft would not come out of the ross box sooo i took everthing in the ross steering system out as a whole. now the stuff is just sitting on the garage floor.
     
  16. Feb 1, 2005
    vanguard

    vanguard

    There's a worm gear on the end of the ross shaft, unless you take the box apart it won't come out.
     
  17. Feb 1, 2005
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    tried that. i gave up too easily saying i would get it later. since i dont have a floor right now i have a big hole everything fit through rather nicely.
     
  18. Feb 1, 2005
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    If it's like mine, there is so much crud on it that you don't see the 3 bolts on the top - take those out and the shaft pulls out fine.
     
  19. Feb 2, 2005
    vanguard

    vanguard

    Okay, the precise application of force applied via a 3 lb mini-sledge did the trick and the wheel has been seperated from the column. Unfortunately, the steering wheel did not survive the procedure.

    Does anyone have further ideas on rebuilding the column ie how it comes apart? I'd like to replace the bearings as it has a slight binding and would like to clean up and paint the cover. As a reminder this is a postal column and not a Ross column.

    Thanks.
     
  20. Feb 2, 2005
    linckeil

    linckeil Member

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    I rebuilt mine. If i recall correctly there is a snap ring at the bottom of the shaft. Pull this off and the shaft slides out the top of the column. there is a bearing "cup" on each end of the shaft. In these "cups" are a bunch of little balls. I believe the cups are held together to retain the balls via a snap ring of sorts. Its been about 3 months since I did this, so I don't recall the procedure 100 percent. I did it without the aid of a manual. Its pretty straight forward. All I did was clean up the balls and cups and reassemble with new grease. It spins nice and easy now. It was amazing how much crud and dried up grease was in those cups along with the balls.
     
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