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Starting the spring replacement

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by middle.road, Jul 4, 2014.

  1. Jul 4, 2014
    middle.road

    middle.road Leaf Spring Challenged

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    Finally have the time to put it up on stands. Since it was low in the front I figured the rears were OK.
    But with the axle hanging free the rears look odd. I think a PO removed some leaves and I've not
    seen straight leaves like this before.
    Does the bottom (2) leaves look right for the rears of an intermediate?
    Now I'm wondering if the overload coils on the shocks is what was keeping the rear up.

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  2. Jul 4, 2014
    timgr

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    Clips are missing on the right, but that's correct otherwise. 5 leaves, with two short overloads. Factory standard equipment for (most? all?) intermediates.

    Yes, clearly the overloads are lifting the rear.
     
  3. Jul 4, 2014
    middle.road

    middle.road Leaf Spring Challenged

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    Thanks Tim, about to go out and remove the rears and change the bushings.
    Hopefully my Son will show up today and I can give him the experience of digging out the old bushings. :)

    In the '72 TSM they show 9-leaves in the figure, but the chart states 5. A tad confusing.
    I've got a pair of RS5000's to go in - how much you want to bet that after lowering
    it back on the ground, it'll be sitting low?
    There's a pair of rears still sitting on the donor where I got the fronts, but they're 9 or 10 leaf with the mil wrap.

    _Dan
     
  4. Jul 4, 2014
    timgr

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    Don't trust the manual for stuff like that. They use a picture to show the process, not the precise same equipment. If they have a stock photo that illustrates what they want, they'll use it, even if it's not completely current. Remember that the TSM was written for the dealership mechanics and service managers, which should be a savvy bunch. If you want to know what pieces were used where, look at the parts book.

    And ... 1972? The 1974 is closer to the '73 than the '72. There is a '74 TSM online at www.oljeep.com - 1972 was the transition year, and has differences from '73 - like the clutch linkage, heater controls, etc. Vapor recovery is profoundly different.

    JMO - having the TSM for your year would be helpful... you will likely have no issues using the '72 or '74 TSM if you keep in mind it's the wrong year for your Jeep. I did a lot of work on my '65 F-100 using a '72 Ford shop manual and photocopies from the Motors manuals at the library ... but I knew what I was doing. Today, having the right year TSM is comforting to me.

    The 5-leaf rears will sit level with the 7-leaf fronts - both standard equipment.

    Mil wrap springs on an intermediate are aftermarket, AFAIK. The factory HD option is 10 or 11 leaves, with no mil wrap IIRC.
     
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  5. Jul 4, 2014
    middle.road

    middle.road Leaf Spring Challenged

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    The donor pack actually has a part number stamped on the bottom leaf - 999525. Haven't look at the PLs yet.
    The count comes out to (11) with the wrap leaf.

    I took all the separate PDF sections of the 1972 TSM at oljeep, combined them into one and then OCR'd the file
    to be able to search it, instead of just having images of the pages.
    Figures that the '74 is closer. :) I'll do it with that one then also.

    I've been vacillating over getting a paper manual off Ebay or getting the Detroit Iron CD version.
    I keep hoping to score a version off the web before shelling out $40.
    Need to make a decision soon, no doubt - hehe.

    Interesting to note, when I was at the 4x4 shop that is closing down, there were a number of original tech/part manuals and I went
    through them and did not see any copyright notices or marks on them.

    Thanks for the input, Tim, 'tis appreciated!

    _Dan
     
  6. Jul 4, 2014
    timgr

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    999525 is a Jeep PN. The 10-leaf for 1974/75 is 999528. My '74-80 book lists 999528 (10), 999529 (9) and 999530 (7). All the rest are 535xxx numbers. Jim should be able to ID your PN, if he notices this post.

    I don't recall a PN stamped into the springs - instead I remember it stenciled with white paint.

    The pictures are always rendered best in the original manuals.

    Glad I could help.
     
  7. Jul 4, 2014
    jpflat2a

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    999525 is a front 10 leaf HD assy according to my 74-80 parts book
    As Tim mentions, I also don't recall numbers stamped into the springs, but I do recall the painted numbers.
     
  8. Jul 4, 2014
    middle.road

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    Not sure what the year of the 'donor' is/was. All that was left was the frame, Springs, Steering gear box, gutted axles, and a tarped up rebuilt L6.

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