Clutch no engagement???

Hey there, I'm now having a clutch issue of no engagement! I was running the jeep with just the rolling frame with 231ef/ 225 flywheel and original clutch to plow driveway for years everything good but ghetto looking!!! I recently put jeep back together body and all, treated it to a newer used 231ef and now i have no clutch engagement! Newer 231ef with original 225 fly/clutch and new bushing wanna say .059 IO, Started up fine in neutral pushed in pedal to disengage then 1st gear lots of grinding... I thought fine pilot bushing needs a bit or wear to allow input to spin happened last time i installed 231. Problem now is i can push clutch pedal and go through all gears and jeep will only move forward slowly lots of throttle... just now I get no movement of jeep. Almost like clutch is full slipping??? Clutch cable has minimal dead space???
UHHH Any suggestion would be helpful

Thanks everyone J

 

It could be that the new friction disc was dragging, and making the gears grind. It happens.

You may have adjusted it to eliminate that. Now that the disc has broken in a bit and the "fuzz" is worn off it, the adjustment needs to be backed off again until you can restore proper free play in the linkage.

Just one possibility.

 

is transfer case in neutral

 

Hey, so just test again tcase in four low tranny 1st gear will only limp forward so slowly can give full throttle wouldnt go any faster! Almost like old clutch has given up last life.... thought there was lots of meat left on pressure plate???? Yes i do know that 4low would be a crawl speed!

 

Check to make sure the clutch linkage isn't so far out of adjustment that it's not letting the throwout bearing release the clutch all the way. I see you just put the body back on, any chance the clutch pedal is rubbing on the floor pan and not returning all the way?

 

" Almost like old clutch has given up last life.... thought there was lots of meat left on pressure plate????"

My mistake - I assumed you'd replaced it.

 

Revisited
Clutch issue solved... thanks my buddy E. Maybe solution can help others. 1st of all don't be cheap and not use some sort of splined clutch install tool.... don't try eyeball as i did will ===== problems! Narrowed it down to clutch...backed off bell housing bolts so the pressure, or pinch on the maybe not perfectly centered clutch disc was eased. Then started jeep on jack stands full drivetrain of jeep under own power .Tightened up BH bolts back to spec, completed, awesome.
Thanks every for their insights, forum rocks!

Thanks J

 

You should have alignment dowels between the engine and bellhousing to make sure they are in alignment. If missing that explains a lot and you will eventually have further issues down the road. The front bearing retainer on the transmission centers the transmission to the bellhousing. If there is slop here then the Same thing. You need to find out why simply loosening the bolts and re tightening them allowed things to work correctly. Or there will be issues down the road. Things like premature wear of the pilot bushing, clutch, transmission bearings and shafts, clutch engagement/disengagement issues, the list goes on.


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Thanks Nickmil, dowels were good center bore of bell good... thing runs great now! I SHOULD of installed clutch correctly with old input shaft, or tool....NOT eyeball. So when I reinstalled bell/tranny to engine there must of been a slight misailgment issue or too snug on new pilot bearing thus making the gods of clutch unhappy!
I backed off of BH bolts a bit and turned over of engine which must centered and freed up the clutch and bid. Jeep runs awesome now.
Thanks J

 

I experienced chronic problems with a 258 4-speed jumping out of gear until I discovered the front and rear faces of the bell were not parallel. Had to shim it on one side to center the bore axis. Spent a $1000 on useless trannie rebuilding, then a slice of beer-can fixed it.