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Ross steering box adjustment

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by ThePhantom, Aug 14, 2013.

  1. Aug 14, 2013
    ThePhantom

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    I've searched and read lots of posts about adjusting the slop out of the Ross steering box (69 CJ5) with the adjustment screw and nut. Seems to be a good solution, but what about the shims? The FSM mentions removing shims, and I'm not sure I understand how that would make a difference or exactly how it works. Has anyone done it? If so, did it help?

    The rest of my steering gear is in great shape (it only has 12k miles) and I've traced the "slop with clunk" to the steering box. I just want to make sure I do the right adjusting.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Aug 15, 2013
    Walt Couch

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    The shims are there to take up the slop in the steering wheel. (There are two adjustments for this) If you can pull your steering wheel towards and then push down and feel slack in the shaft, then you will need to do the shim adjustment. You have to loosen the clamp at the base of the steering tube and slide the tube up to get to the shims. The other adjustment is on the face-plate of the gear box.
     
  3. Aug 15, 2013
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    I'd suggest pulling the cover off & checking the condition of the studs that engage the worn shaft- if they're worn down with substantial flat spots you' won't be able to set things up satisfactoraily-you'll go from slop to binding. If they're worn a little bit you might want to try a "tight steer". these have only been on the market s short while, I haven't seen any reports from users yet on how well they actually work.
     
  4. Aug 15, 2013
    1960willyscj5

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    Wow! That little gizmo is 80 bucks!
    How would you install that? From looking at the pictures, it goes from the outside in and the nut locks it in place from the inside?
     
  5. Aug 15, 2013
    Walt Couch

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    No you don't take the plate off. Just remove the slotted screw and lock nut, and screw this gizmo in and lock it down with the lock nut. I am saving for one but it's not real high on the list.
     
  6. Aug 15, 2013
    ThePhantom

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    Oh, I see now. When the FSM said up and down motion of the shaft, I thought they were referring to the steering shaft that comes out the side of the box, not the steering column. Makes sense now. I'll try the adjusting screw and see if it gets better.

    Thanks again!
     
  7. Aug 16, 2013
    sieg

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    I bought a Tight steer 6 months ago also have a steering dampener on my 69 cj5 it really makes a difference 65mph on the interstate can take my hands off the wheel straight as an arrow
     
  8. Aug 16, 2013
    Rollbar

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    Is the 69 steering the same as a '65?

    If so can you post a pic of the dampener you installed if it is on a stock steering system.

    Thanks,
    Jim



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  9. Aug 16, 2013
    Rollbar

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    Question, is this a Ross Steering Box?

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    Thanks,
    Jim


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  10. Aug 16, 2013
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Yes it is.

    re. The damper don't install one until you've gone through the steering system & fixed any issues it might have- do a search here on "death wobble".

    Dampers are good for protecting the steering components- they weren't designed for hitting bumps or pot holes while traveling at speed on highways and a damper will do a good job of killing off the impact loads that can wear things prematurely.

    But they should not be used to cover up issues with bad steering components- doing that will, sooner or later, bite you on the ***. If you want this thing safe for your daughter to drive fix it the right way.

    H.
     
  11. Aug 16, 2013
    Rollbar

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    Thanks.
    Yes I need to check it out first.

    Already pulled up/pushed down on the steering wheel and it would not budge.

    Driving it around the 3 acres on gravel, when I turn and also turn tight, I can let go if the wheel and it will return to center.

    Checking the kingpin (I guess it is-long day, tired) tomorrow.

    Thanks again,
    Jim


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  12. Aug 17, 2013
    sieg

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    howard is correct I did go thru the whole front end first. after I installed the tight steer the steering feels more fluid where before it was jerky feeling. I can try to get pics next week. I am tied up all weekend working on my well. also new radial tires made a difference
     
  13. Aug 17, 2013
    Rollbar

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    Pics would awesome.

    Thanks,


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