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Leaky Fuel Tank

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Heatseeker, Nov 24, 2012.

  1. Mar 3, 2013
    scott milliner

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    JB weld didn't work for me. It only lasted about a month. Then where the leak was it softened and peeled off. That's when I took it to a radiator shop to have it fixed right.
     
  2. Mar 3, 2013
    jasonjp62

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    Has anybody here used bondo on a leaky tank?[/QUOTE]

    I have seen guys do it and it has held for years!!
     
  3. Mar 3, 2013
    Strawdawg

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    I used JB on one of mine 20 years ago and it is still holding, but, I cleaned it well and may have been lucky. I would just use the two part gas tank epoxy or solder it
     
  4. Mar 3, 2013
    timgr

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    The body man at the Jeep dealership used bondo to repair gas tanks - but that was 30+ years ago.

    Today, I'd worry that modern fuels would soften it. Bondo is a polyester putty that is filled with talc. The talc makes the hardened mass permeable, and that's why bondo must be sealed front and back with steel and primer / top coat. Bondo exposed to the air will soak up water, and the steel next to it will rust.

    If you have to use filler, I'd suggest any of the glass-fiber filled body fillers, like Kitty Hair. These are not permeable like bondo. You still need to worry about compatibility with modern fuels.

    JB Weld is a metal-filled epoxy. That might work ok, as long as the hardened epoxy is compatible with modern fuels. I'd look for an epoxy putty that claims chemical resistant up front, like Devcon Plastic Steel.
     
  5. Mar 3, 2013
    Heatseeker

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    Your mentioning Devcon reminds me that I happen to have a couple of different cans in a cabinet. I'll have to check which formulas they are.

    Thanks for stirring my memory timgr...it's not what it used to be!

    Off to the garage I go!!!

    Edit: whoo hoo, I found a brand new can of Plastic Steel in the back of my chem. cabinet. I'm going to get to mixing and filling!
     
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  6. Mar 5, 2015
    Focker

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    I take it water isn't a good leak detector? I just replaced the cracked vent hose on my CJ5 (tank's under the rear floor). I was able to fill the 15gl tank for the first time in a long time. It looks like fuel is seeping around where the metal spouts meet the tank but not enough to drip onto the ground. I pulled the tank yesterday and cleaned and inspected everywhere and couldn't find the leak. I turned it on its end, spouts up, and filled with water and still no sign of the leak. It had me thinking my new hose wasn't tight enough. Now I'm wondering if water isn't the way to test because it's not mentioned here. ???
     
  7. Mar 5, 2015
    PeteL

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    Holy old thread, Batman!

    Water probably doesn't permeate as easily as gasoline.
    I like to use applied air pressure (low psi), and use soapy water to detect leaks in gas tanks and radiators.
     
  8. Mar 5, 2015
    Focker

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    I didn't want to get slammed with the old "try the search function". lol
     
  9. Mar 5, 2015
    Alan28

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    I used epoxy putty to repair my fuel tank which was broken a little bit by the PO.
    Works with no problem. Already 4 years ago;
    but it is good to change the tank with a new one. Depends on the problems;
     
  10. Mar 5, 2015
    Focker

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    I just pulled the trigger on a new tank and sending unit. Not what I wanted to put $ into...I love how my Jeep's determining my "To Do" list! :)
     
  11. Mar 6, 2015
    Keys5a

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    It was fun to read this older thread. I don't like to use muriatic acid in original tanks as it eats all the tinning off that keeps the tanks from rusting. All the new replacement tanks are just bare steel inside. I have soldered the original ones very successfully. I have also used Hirsh's tank sealer very successfuly too. I still have a Willys wagon that was "patched" over 20 years ago with bubble gum. Its still under there and doesn't leak (or even weep). That chunk of gum is hard as a rock.
    -Donny
     
  12. Mar 6, 2015
    tomahawk715

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    When I got my 57 the various different patch jobs were leaking. I've heard horror stories about "new" gas eating liners and gumming up everything. Eastwood kit is 50 bucks for cars--POR15s is 80 something. I'd rather spring for a new tank or find a good used one. Nothing worse than smelling gas leaking in your vehicle. We'll maybe it turning into a ball of fire because the tank leaked. And this is coming from a guy who has used soup cans and pop rivets to get a few more miles out of a muffler.
     
  13. Mar 6, 2015
    timgr

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    Heaven forbid! :shock:

    We are pretty easy about that around here. A new thread would have been ok.

    You got a good answer from PeteL. In my case, I went ahead and sealed the tank anyway. I used Hirsch sealant, but it seems that Red Kote is good too. Or take it to a shop.
     
  14. Mar 9, 2015
    Focker

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    I received the new sending unit today and it has a plastic float. I'd like to use the brass float I have from the old unit but here's my dumb question. It sounds like it has liquid in it...Most likely it's gas but what do I know? Is it supposed to have something in it?
     
  15. Mar 9, 2015
    tomahawk715

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    For today's fuels--and it's a tank float--I'd stick with the plastic one. It's likely made for today's wonderful gas. If brass one wasn't leaking id say run it. I don't like messing with patching gas filled or previously gas filled things.
     
  16. Mar 9, 2015
    PeteL

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    Probably has a leak. Try putting it in hot water and look for bubbles.

    Can be drained and resoldered (but remember you are dealing with a highly flammable liquid!)
     
  17. Mar 10, 2015
    Focker

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    Thanks.

    I've soldered a carb float before, I'll be safe.
     
  18. Mar 10, 2015
    Walt Couch

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    X2 here. Float is not to have anything inside of it. I put the float in the freezer for a few minutes then submerge it in a pan of hot water and if it has any leaks it will bubble immediately.
     
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    timgr

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    Last time I tried to repair one of these floats, the brass was thin and it kept cracking along the groove where the wire bale snaps in. I am an expert solderer, but it was a lost cause. I used the plastic float that comes with the sender.
     
  20. Mar 10, 2015
    Focker

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    That's what I'm going to do.
     
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