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to roll bar or not to roll bar. That is the question.

Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by garage gnome, Oct 20, 2009.

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Should the roll bar be put on or not?

  1. Keep it stock...

    5 vote(s)
    15.6%

  2. Put it on and be safe

    27 vote(s)
    84.4%
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  1. Oct 23, 2009
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    Not all cages are tied to the frame. Are they stronger that way? most definitely. You will find the vast majority of user Jeeps cages are not tied to the frame. I endo'ed and barrel rolled my CJ-5 when racing. Amazingly the cage held up quite well and I came out in good shape. Still trail run and drive that Jeep on the street. The cage was not attached to the frame but all attachment points were reinforced and the sheet metal was not rusty and in good shape. The mounting points also straddled the tub supports for a little more strength and very larger plates were used to distribute the load at the mounting points. The next Jeeps I raced had frame mounted rollcages.
     
    nickmil, Oct 23, 2009
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  2. Oct 23, 2009
    unclebill

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    mine just bolts to the sheet metal.
    but it is better than nothing.
     
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  3. Oct 23, 2009
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    My cages are not tied to the frame, but like Nick's, are reinforced with large plates to distribute the load. The cage for my son's roll over was not tied and you can see how well it worked.
     
    Warloch, Oct 23, 2009
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  4. Oct 23, 2009
    Dummy

    Dummy I kick hippies

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    I try not to play the jerk on this site out of respect for the members, but this is a stupid thread.

    Cage it and add seatbelts. At the very least put a rollbar in. I've had brains on my shoes before. It's not pretty and you don't forget the smell. Unless you're building a show piece, why would you forgo protection for you and your family? Aesthetics count for nothing when you're eating through a tube and can't wipe your own arse.
     
    Dummy, Oct 23, 2009
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  5. Oct 23, 2009
    bobracing

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    As said, most cages are mounted to the body and do well, the biggest thing is large plates to distribute the force during a roll.
    Also make sure you have large plates on the bottom, not just washers, see this way to often. The plates should also not be the same size, if they are, this can act as a punch thru the body.
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2009
    bobracing, Oct 23, 2009
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  6. Oct 24, 2009
    canuckCJ

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    Good pointer thanks, as I'm putting a cage in my CJ7 and hadn't heard that one.

    For the 3A I don't have a cage and don't have seat belts. The way I see it is that I don't drive it often far, fast or in inclement weather. It's also decidedly safer than the motorcycle I used to drive.

    Having said all this I'm contemplating a cage and belts just so I can take my family in the 3A. I won't let the kids in it without belts.

    I'd say it all depends what your going to use the Jeep for. If your driving it in traffic regularly I'd get a cage and belts.
     
    canuckCJ, Oct 24, 2009
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