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best gear setup for 62 CJ5

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jccity6, Sep 17, 2009.

  1. Sep 17, 2009
    jccity6

    jccity6 knucklehead

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    Hey gang, I have 5.38 (5.375 actually) in my Dana 44 rear axle and need advice on what will be best. I have the 225 V6 with a t-90 with Warn OD, Dana 18 and plan on puting 33s with a small lift when I get further in the build. I will probly be doing mostly street and freeway driving and a little trail messing around. Since I have the OD, do I need to go as far as 3.73s or would 4.10s or 4.56s be better overall? A calculator said at 60mph the rpms would be 3300 with the current setup. any advice would help.
    thanks for the help
    JC:flag:
     
  2. Sep 18, 2009
    USMC_LB

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    I have read many posts of ppl stating over and over that 4.88s with a Warn OD is the best overall setup. But you do emphasize that you will be doing alot more street driving than wheeling. Lets see what the EarlyCJ5.com hive mind has to say.

    TD
     
  3. Sep 18, 2009
    winch

    winch New Member

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    i've got a 70.v6,od with 373's,good for allround but if you're into heavy rockcrawlin lows too high.but for general 4x4in it's good
     
  4. Sep 18, 2009
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    5.38's, 33's, and an OD will work well. Since that's what you already have, I'd run it..
     
  5. Sep 18, 2009
    timgr

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    Where did you get the 3300 RPM at 60? I used the Novak calculator and got 2465 at 60 mph. Your final gear ratio is 0.75 with the overdrive. A 33" tire is pretty tall for these vehicles; I think your final drive ratio is close to ideal for these tires.

    http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/gearing.htm
     
  6. Sep 18, 2009
    Patrick

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    In didn't check, but maybe he calculated it W/O the OD?
     
  7. Sep 18, 2009
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    4.27's were a common Jeep gear..it's what I have and it's a good compromise in that you always want a bit taller on the street and a bit shorter on the trail..;) I can cover the short side with the T18, but still would like an OD someday. Or a swap to a 700R4...
     
  8. Sep 18, 2009
    aallison

    aallison 74 cj6, 76 cj5. Has anyone seen my screwdriver?

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    I would figure the RPM's as it was when it was stock at it's normal crusing speed back in the day. Then I'd try to match those RPM's wtih the tires and speed you want to go, 60 MPH.
     
  9. Sep 18, 2009
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    I have had both the 4.88s and 5.38s with the V6 and OD. I did not run the 5.38s with 33s, just 31s, but have run the 4.88s with both. The 4.88s with the 33s can be a little tall with the OD in for some areas, but on the whole I really like the setup.

    I do us it on the street and wheeling and set it up for a good comprimise of both. 70 mph is not an issue with the setup (now that I have a progamable speedo and can see what I am really doing speed wise :) )
     
  10. Sep 18, 2009
    duffer

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    My 69 CJ5 came stock with the 4.88's and they work pretty well with the stock 225 (headers/450 Holley), 31x10.5's, and the Warn OD. The 4.56's would likely also work for your application but the 4.10's might be a tad high. I am using 4.10's in my 3B with a Warn OD (33x12.5's) but I probably have twice the low end torque available from the 225.
     
  11. Sep 18, 2009
    jccity6

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    Yah, I did calculate the rpm without the OD so that was the problem. Sounds like maybe i might think about running with just 31s first as see how it goes based on the collective's advice.
     
  12. Sep 18, 2009
    oldtime

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    As of September 1st 1964 the now famous "Warn Overdrive" became ...Approved "JEEP" Special Equipment".
    Kaiser Jeep Corporation recommended the Warn overdrive only for the 5.38 and 4.88 final drives. But that fact is a seperate issue.

    I would recommend that you try out your 5.375 gear ratio.
    You can change the final drive ratio nearly as easily later on if not satisfied.
    I believe most will find the 4.88 final drive with 25% overdrive to be nearly ideal for onroad / offroad useage.
     
  13. Sep 30, 2009
    DavidWymore

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    I have a 71 with a 225 and 4.88s on 31s. It's not geared low enough for good control in the rocks. What are my options? Is there a low gear set for this T-case?

    I looked into a 4spd with a granny 1st since I have some SM465s sitting around but it looks like I would have front driveshaft/trans clearance issues and would have to run the small driveshaft which doesn't make sense strength-wise.
     
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  14. Sep 30, 2009
    Patrick

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    The front shaft wouldn't be any smaller than the factory one. I don't think there'll be clearance issues anyway...
     
  15. Sep 30, 2009
    DavidWymore

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    Looking like I have a T14 with a D18 = Crawl ratio 37. Not too good. My top speed is also about 50 mph, which doesn't really matter as I just putt around town or trailer it to the dez. Not much for gearing in these ole beasts.

    "Crawl ratios in the 60's are quite capable; in the 80's, very respectable, in the 110's, impressive and anything beyond the 130's is usually considered the point of diminishing returns."
     
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    JohnyJeep

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    I had the 5:38's with the OD and an SM465 in my old 69. 1st gear was almost useless for me, but then again the 465 has a reallly low 1st gear. Otherwise the setup was ideal. Highway cruising was not a problem, since you don't want to be going over 70 in these things anyway :driving: I believe I was running an unusual size tire also (34 x 10.50):? I remember it was taller than 33's but not as tall as the 35's (SOA conversion)
     
  17. Oct 1, 2009
    DavidWymore

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    1st wouldn't be used except for rock crawling. I want to be able to creep up one side and down the other of a bowling ball sized rock or curb without having to mess with the clutch/throttle.

    I *think* I might have a 420 that needs rebuilt around. Looks like the golden setup, short of an NV4500.

    http://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/kit_422.htm

    ...now let's see what I have to do to mate it to the 225....

    If you need to join this transmission to a GM truck bellhousing (versions from 1968-1991) with the 5-1/8" bore, it can be done. Novak offers a bellhousing locator sizing ring, part #BR4. We also sell new, billet steel SM420 bearing retainers turned to the dimension you require.
     
  18. Oct 1, 2009
    Patrick

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    That shouldn't be a problem. Mine will do that without hardly dropping RPM . I have the close ratio T18, 4.88's and 33's.
     
  19. Oct 1, 2009
    DavidWymore

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    Nuttin' like a nice granny 1st...:)
     
  20. Oct 1, 2009
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, I have the close ratio...4.02:1 1st.
    Low enough for the stuff we run around here.
     
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