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Dana 27 spool

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Huntman, Jul 29, 2007.

  1. Jul 29, 2007
    Huntman

    Huntman HIGH ROLLER

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    do they make them and if so where can you get them? Has anyone used one? i was thinking of one as a alturnative to a locker.
     
  2. Jul 29, 2007
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Not sure if anyone makes them anymore but with ross steering they would be a serious pain in the butt to steer when in 4wd. YMMV
     
  3. Jul 29, 2007
    Huntman

    Huntman HIGH ROLLER

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    i was just wondering if anyone still made them. I am planning to do a ps swap soon so i was just plannning ahead.
     
  4. Jul 29, 2007
    jayhawkclint

    jayhawkclint ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Lincoln makes 'em. I'm with McRuff, though; my PowrLok tries to pull me straight sometimes. I'd think the spool might cause more problems than it solves.
     
  5. Jul 29, 2007
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    Why a spool instead of a locker? :?
     
  6. Jul 29, 2007
    Huntman

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    Price is why!! i didnt want to spend as much money as a locker is. And i may be wrong but doesnt a spool do basically the same thing as a locker anyway? positive traction? like i said im gonna do a power steering swap before i do this but thinking ahead. if i have ps i shouldnt have a problem turning should I? at least no harder then with a locker right?
     
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  7. Jul 29, 2007
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    But driveability is the issue. I have driven a Jeep with power steering and a spool, might as well not have had power steering at all. You needed to live in a gym in order to be able drive that thing.
     
  8. Jul 29, 2007
    Huntman

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    What makes it so hard or harder then a locker? I should only be "hard" when it's in 4wd right?
     
  9. Jul 29, 2007
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    Lockers like lockrites and such will unlock when power is let off selectable lockers can be turned off when turning. Yeah only hard in 4 wheel drive, then again slow also makes turning the wheel harder so trails made it unbearable. That spool I drove was removed for a lockright after only a few trailrides.

    Sorry man MHO is spools belong in the rear of offroad only rigs and dragsters.
     
  10. Jul 29, 2007
    Huntman

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    Thanks for your opinion Jeff, i understand what you mean. i guess i will just have to start saving!!
     
  11. Jul 30, 2007
    gopher_6_9

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    double stick it and through the spool in. There is absolutley nothing wrong with it with either locking hubs or a double stick......
     
  12. Jul 30, 2007
    DanStew

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    If he has a dana 18, he cannot differentiate between front and rear.
     
  13. Jul 30, 2007
    neptco19

    neptco19 That guy....

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    You can dissengage the front Dan, and only have 2low if you remove the interlock pill. As for the spool, I think you'll have more problems with axles breaking. And not to mention the turning issues like said above. If you insist on locking the front for cheap, weld it up. At least that way when you cant turn you can still pull the spider gears and swap in a lockrite. Not to mention I have no idea where you would find a spool for the D27. I just looked and Randys dosnt list one at all.
     
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    DanStew

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    Thats true. I was thinking the other way.
     
  15. Jul 30, 2007
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    Your turning radius is very limited with a welded or spooled front end. Unless one likes getting out and unlocking hubs when attempting to turn don't weld or use a spool in the front.
     
  16. Jul 30, 2007
    Hawkes

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    Spool is not available for a Dana 30, so doubt it would be for a D27. Would only be good if you wanted to go in a straight line in 4x4.
     
  17. Jul 30, 2007
    Txjake

    Txjake I wrenched with Sparky

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    If you do spool the front, keep your thumbs out of the steering wheel or you will wish that you had.......
     
  18. Jul 30, 2007
    gopher_6_9

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    From my experiances it isn't that bad assuming:

    1. you have a dual stick (I thought you could remove the interlock pill on a d18 to do that right?) for trails

    2. locking hubs for the road.

    I will admit I could tell a little steering differance on the trails in 2wd with the hubs locked, but nothing THAT bad, on the road with the hubs unlocked no differance at all. Save your money on the spool, weld the front, money saved on the spool put in a 2 sick.
     
  19. Jul 30, 2007
    Huntman

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    i thought abuot welding it but i dont want to mess up what i have. i guess i will go with the loc-rite, its just gonna cost alittle more but if it works out better in the end then its ok with me!! I was also thinking about the teralow kit from teraflex for the dana 18 and maybe some 4.56 gears when i do the lockers this fall. i just want some opinions.. has ne one used the tera low kit it takes the low range up to 3.15 form 2.46. is it worth the money? with 3.15 low for the t-case and a 3.10 low for my tranny 33's and 4.56 gears i would have a crawl ratio of 44. something. thats what i was shooting for, something in the 40's but is it worth it? i have a extra d18 i was gonna built for this.
     
  20. Jul 30, 2007
    Mcruff

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    The tera low kit will not work with the t14 trans (if yours is stock thats what you have) as it has a 10 spline output shaft and all other jeeps use a 6 spline output shaft. The 10 spline gear was discontinued some time back from what I have been told.
     
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