1. Registration trouble? Please use the "Contact Us" link at the bottom right corner of the page and your issue will be resolved.
    Dismiss Notice

Tapered axles - POOF

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Gixx, Jan 7, 2006.

  1. Jan 8, 2006
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Apopka, Fl
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2002
    Messages:
    12,382
    The nut is definitely supposed to be torqued down, I think it's the 150 foot pounds as previously mentioned.
     
  2. Jan 8, 2006
    gte636p

    gte636p Member

    smyrna, Ga
    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2002
    Messages:
    492
    i thought it was as tight as possible with a ten foot cheater bar and then backed of until the cotter pin lines up with the castle nut... and they will work loose without that cotter pin no matter how tight you put it on. i'm just lucky i was on a backstreet and the key held everything in place when i saw a huge nut come flying from behind me. it ain't fun.
     
  3. Jan 9, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

    Hermosa, SD
    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2003
    Messages:
    8,525
    didn't have to purchase hubs
    cut the drums away, press old studs out, install new non-swage type studs, back on the road
    FYI
     
  4. Jan 9, 2006
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

    Huntingdon PA
    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2002
    Messages:
    3,437
    Taz, many of us have upgraded to the 11" drums found on '72-75 CJs and Wagoneers. Kits are available from:
    http://www.r-p4wd.com/
    give them a phone call for more info.
     
  5. Jan 9, 2006
    tazcj

    tazcj New Member

    Conway, AR
    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2005
    Messages:
    19
    I have a spare full floating axle off of a newer jeep that the axles and flanges are shot. The 11 inch brakes are in great shape along with the drums. I was just concerned about getting the hubs off of the 10 inch drums. Well, I used a bfh and beat them off tonight. I believe I have all the parts I need to get back on the road. :) My only concern is puttin the axle key in correctly. I'm using the same key as stated earlier in this thread. I just don't know if the tapered end goes toward the diff or toward the wheels. Also, does the longest piece of the tapered end go along the axle or along the hub? I want to make sure I do it right because I don't want to end up with a spun hub. I'm got a lot of meat and hp going through those axles... :)

    Thanks,

    TAZ
     
  6. Jan 10, 2006
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Apopka, Fl
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2002
    Messages:
    12,382
    Tapered end of key goes in, matching the tapered slot. I looked in the FSM to double check. ;)
     
  7. Jan 10, 2006
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

    Happy Valley, OR
    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2002
    Messages:
    12,529
    As said, tapered end goes in first. Make sure you put the hub on lightly first, then slide the key in, then nut and washer. If you put the key in first then the hub the key has a tendency to slide up the ramped portion of the axle and make you think the hub is on all the way. Then when you tighten the nut the key area of the hub is blown out because it forces the key to push through as the nut is tightened down. Nickmil.
     
    tripilio likes this.
  8. Jan 10, 2006
    Old Bill

    Old Bill Aggressively passive....

    Really Southern...
    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2004
    Messages:
    822
    I used a 3 ft cheater with a 2 foot breaker. I just kept torquing that thing as hard as possible until I got to where the cotter pin (barely) lined up. I was told that in no way I should line up the cotter pin by backing off, only by tightening. Knock on wood, no troubles so far.
     
  9. Jan 10, 2006
    80cj

    80cj Member

    Hawaii
    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2003
    Messages:
    554
    Have fun when you have to take it off. I had a 64 CJ-6 with a Chevy 283 and 5.38 gears. Never had any problems with the axle key set up. I used to install everything as per the FSM.
     
  10. Jan 10, 2006
    Gixx

    Gixx Member

    Albuquerque, NM
    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2005
    Messages:
    111
    That's what they make that MONGO puller for -
    To "un-torque" what we get all "torqued up"... at least that's my hope -
    I'd rather fight to get it off, than have it fall off in my hand after it got spun.
     
  11. Jan 11, 2006
    tazcj

    tazcj New Member

    Conway, AR
    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2005
    Messages:
    19

    Just to clarify... I used the 11inch brake backing plate from a Dana 30 front off of a 74 CJ. It was a perfect fit. The rear backing plate's holes would not fit because the holes don't line up. It appears that the centered Dana 44 and the off-set Dana 44 have different patterns, as related to backing plates.

    TAZ
     
  12. Jan 11, 2006
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

    Happy Valley, OR
    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2002
    Messages:
    12,529
    You can use the round pattern 11" backing plates on the flanged axle housings by drilling two holes and grinding the center hole larger so the bearing/seal can pass through. That's all that's needed to do. The Offset flanged and the centered flanged share the same pattern and have a larger center hole for the bearing/seal to pass through. The tapered axle rear shares all 6 of the same bolt holes when using front backing plates. Nickmil.
     
  13. Jan 12, 2006
    tazcj

    tazcj New Member

    Conway, AR
    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2005
    Messages:
    19
    You are correct. I'm just saying that the 11 inch backing plate from the Dana 30 from was a perfect fit, with no modifications.

    Thanks,

    TAZ
     
New Posts