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Oil Filter?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by bolerpuller, Nov 28, 2014.

  1. Nov 28, 2014
    bolerpuller

    bolerpuller Member

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    I got my engine back from the shop last week, and it seems they removed and tossed the oil filter. It looks to me that its an after market mod, and I have no Idea what to replace it with. Anyone recognize this? What would you recommend?

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  2. Nov 28, 2014
    Glenn

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    I don't know what filter you need, but I do know you need to clean that off and cover it better and hope no trash got in the engine. ;)
     
  3. Nov 28, 2014
    colojeepguy

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    Most aftermarket filter bases take a Ford FL1A filter, but the gasket surface looks too big on yours. Looks like it would take a Chevy filter to me...
     
  4. Nov 28, 2014
    1967 CJ5A

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    That would be the stock setup. IIRC, its a Fram PB50 or equivalent. That's what my '67 has. In the later years the F134 came with a spin on rather than the old style canister filter.
     
  5. Nov 28, 2014
    Diggerjeep

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    Mine appears to be exactly the same as yours (68 cj5, f head). Mine has a Purolator L30003 oil filter. That would be my best guess as a place to start.

    Chuck
     
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    Twin2

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    now if it was me .I would move it off engine and turn it upside down on fender well .and get high temperature oil hose .like P/S return hose . it would be less of mess when you change oil . its one of those things , after market , go to auto store and buy both ford /FL1A and chevy AC/ PF1218 . one of them is going to fit
     
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    Diggerjeep

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  8. Nov 29, 2014
    bolerpuller

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    OK so I need to pick up a Purolator L30003, Fram PB50F, Ford FL1A, and a AC/ PF1218 (I can just take the ones I don’t use back) and move the mount over to the fender. Is there a specific oil line I should use? Is there something better than rubber that might crack?
    Thanks!
     
  9. Nov 29, 2014
    Diggerjeep

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    I found a set on ebay that were new rubber. I figured that the originals lasted 40 years, that the new ones would outlive me. If I had left the adapter on then engine, I would have used solid tube (like 1/4 brake line), but needed the flexible line since I moved the filter to the to the fender.
     
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    1967 CJ5A

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    I've never had a problem with spilling oil when i remove the filter, the oil drains down and the filter is basically empty when you remove it.
     
  11. Nov 29, 2014
    jeep2003

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    I would leave it right where it is. But if you do get new oil lines do not get omix-ada . They crack and fall apart in a few months
     
  12. Nov 29, 2014
    Greevesman

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    That's the way mine works also. I was worries the first time I changed it but no problem.
     
  13. Nov 30, 2014
    Steelwheels

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    Looks like the setup on my '65 and I use a Wix 51050. Also, see that curved piece of metal where the top of the filter will rest against? Put a big hose clamp around the filter and that thing. Holds the filter and assembly securely to the engine.
     
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  14. Dec 1, 2014
    PierreDnepr

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    I have the exact same set-up as Steelwheels on my 1966 and no issue of a "large" spill when I took the filter out.
     
  15. Dec 12, 2014
    Bill67cj5

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    Mine is exactly same as yours. 67 f134. I use a NAPA Gold 1050.
     
  16. Dec 26, 2014
    wasillashack

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    Any Baldwin filter dealer can use the dimensions of the gasket face and the thread diameter and pitch to give you an exact match. I suppose other filter dealers can do the same if they are willing. My Baldwin dealer has always been very helpful.
     
  17. Dec 27, 2014
    oddfirejeeper

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    if you do have a problem with spilling oil when you remove the filter all you have to do is puncture a hole in the filter top before draining the oil. that is what i do when i service marine engines that have the filter like that. but it should just empty by itself with gary gravity taking over when you pull the drain plug although slow.
     
  18. Dec 28, 2014
    Rick Whitson

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    I am painting one of those engines as we speak. I just took the oil filter off, mine has a Wix filter, and I cannot read the first numbers but the last two are 50. The thing you need to know is that filter does not leak oil al over the place even though it is upside down, it drains back and does not get oil ever where when removed. Second thing is I don't think you need to move it, it only filters the oil that is going on your timing gears.The rubber lines come from the oil galley at the front of your motor and goes to the filter, then it goes in the timing cover above the timing gears. Not all the oil is filtered, just the oil that goes on the timing gears is.
    On the new motor I put in my Jeep I drilled into the oil pump and tapped it 1/4" pipe, ran an oil line to a finder mount oil filter and back to the block right above the oil pump, where I drilled and tapped the block 1/4" pipe, and returned the oil back to the galley filtered. To do this I had to block off the oil port in the pump so the oil was forced through the filter, it has worked for five years. Best of luck what ever you do, Rick Whitson.
     
  19. Dec 28, 2014
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    This has been discussed before-

    http://www.earlycj5.net/forums/showthread.php?47335-Spin-on-oil-filter&highlight=oil+filter+remote

    it would be interesting to see a write up on your solution :)

    That being said, as someone who has actually spent time on my back under an engine with a bypass filter watching where the oil actually comes out while it's being pumped into the gallery, most of the oil that makes it past the bypass valve comes out the filter return & timing gear nozzle. The rod, main & cam bearings really only '"weep", I'd say that unless your engine really needs new bearings then most of the oil that goes into the gallery ends up going through the filter anyhow.

    H.
     
  20. Dec 28, 2014
    1960willyscj5

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    Could always pull that adapter plate off and take it in with you to your local FLAPS and see if they will match a filter to it for you.
     
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