1. Registration trouble? Please use the "Contact Us" link at the bottom right corner of the page and your issue will be resolved.
    Dismiss Notice

Hand Crank Starting?

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by 1955CJ-5, Nov 1, 2012.

  1. Nov 1, 2012
    1955CJ-5

    1955CJ-5 Member

    Boise, Idaho
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2012
    Messages:
    330
    Walcks lists a hand crank for early CJ's

    http://walcks4wd.com/catalog/produc...e-start-4-cylinder-2-piece-style/category/10/

    There is a hole in the front bumper of my '55 CJ-5 so you could use a crank, but the nut on the front pulley has no "hooks" or maybe "fingers" (I know there must be a better term..) to accept a crank. Walcks lists a part number (p/n 387633) for the front pulley nut required but a search turns up nothing....

    Anyone seen one or have pictures?

    Yes I have hand cranked old tractors and old MG's and have been kicked a coupled of times, but I still think a hand crank would be a neat accessory and it may even be of some use...

    Randy
     
  2. Nov 1, 2012
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

    Port Orange, FL
    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2002
    Messages:
    4,275
    The very early (MB/GPW/CJ-2) Jeeps had a pin that ran through the center of the crankshaft nut, and the hand crank engaged the pin when it was turned in the correct direction. If it backfired, the slots in the hand crank simply allowed the crank to disengage so you didn't break an arm.

    IIRC the military TM's (Technical Manuals) had a good description and a diagram.

    The special nut I mentioned is available on the same page on Walck's site as the crank.
     
  3. Nov 1, 2012
    1955CJ-5

    1955CJ-5 Member

    Boise, Idaho
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2012
    Messages:
    330
    Thanks for that description of the correct nut. It's possible ( but unlikely) that I have one on my jeep but I will have to look more closely. I was expecting the nut to have the hooks or ears and not the crank..I'll look for the pin.

    I see the part # on the page with the crank, but putting that # in the search window yields nothing...I'll need to call them...
     
  4. Nov 2, 2012
    Mr. Gangrene Jeans

    Mr. Gangrene Jeans I See Voices&Hear Visions

    Kansas City
    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2009
    Messages:
    282
    The F134 engine in mine had the crank nut as described. It was however mangled by someone using a pipe wrench on it.

    For anyone not familiar with hand cranking, my Dad's three rules 1) Make sure the ignition and timing is in good order. 2) Only pull up on the crank. 3) Never, ever loop your thumb over the crank, open palm only.
     
  5. Nov 2, 2012
    1955CJ-5

    1955CJ-5 Member

    Boise, Idaho
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2012
    Messages:
    330
    Thanks for those three rules..pulling "up" is almost a given, but the not looping the thumb is probably the most important, and you have to think that over every time...

    I just looked and no pin in the pulley nut....
     
  6. Nov 4, 2012
    jeep2003

    jeep2003 Well-Known Member

    Upstate NY
    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    1,933
    yea i might make one for my 2a but im not sure the risk of a broken wrist is worth it when i can just walk over to the main garage and get the jump pack once in a while. but it would be good for emegencys i suppose
     
  7. Dec 7, 2012
    jeep2003

    jeep2003 Well-Known Member

    Upstate NY
    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    1,933
    I made a crank and it works great! I havnt started my 2a in a few weeks so i know the battery would be low. I cranked it over until it wouldnt turn over anymore just to get some gas up into it. Only turned over once or twice with the battery. Then i whipped out the hand crank and gave it a go. It was awkward as i didnt really know where to stand or how to hold it but it just went for it and it cranked over and started in probrobly half a turn no problem. Bent the crank a little as i didnt use a very heavy tube but it worked fine
     
  8. Dec 8, 2012
    Admiral Cray

    Admiral Cray I want to do this again.. Staff Member

    Bainbridge...
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    204,352
    :uwop:

    I want to see...
     
  9. Dec 8, 2012
    jeep2003

    jeep2003 Well-Known Member

    Upstate NY
    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    1,933
  10. Dec 8, 2012
    Admiral Cray

    Admiral Cray I want to do this again.. Staff Member

    Bainbridge...
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    204,352
    How cool is that...:beer:

    Thanks...:D
     
  11. Dec 13, 2012
    Schlotka

    Schlotka default member

    Weed, CA
    Joined:
    May 1, 2005
    Messages:
    82
    Got my crank nut from walcks, you might give 'em a call. They have the 2 piece hand crank, but it is a little too short for a cj5, you have to weld on an extension. By the way, the hand crank works just fine to start up the engine.
     
  12. Mar 4, 2015
    JJBoogs

    JJBoogs New Member

    Willamette...
    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    6
    Very cool. Thanks for sharing Jeep2003!
     
  13. Mar 4, 2015
    PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Hills of NH
    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2003
    Messages:
    9,827
    I LOVE handcranks. A a get-you-home lifesaver when the battery is low.
     
  14. Mar 4, 2015
    uncamonkey

    uncamonkey Member

    Greeley CO
    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2009
    Messages:
    2,104
    Holy old thread. I've push started enough Jeeps and I admit, I've started my old VW with a sparkplug socket and ratchet on the generator nut. Sometimes it's interesting to find the socket afterwards.
     
  15. Mar 6, 2015
    jeep2003

    jeep2003 Well-Known Member

    Upstate NY
    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    1,933
    I broke that old hand crank I made. The shaft kept bending and the end piece cracked off. Im going to make another one but im going to use a thick pipe that just fits through the hole and just shape the end to fit the crank. I think that should hold up better
     
  16. Mar 9, 2015
    jeep2003

    jeep2003 Well-Known Member

    Upstate NY
    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    1,933
  17. Mar 9, 2015
    Wenaha

    Wenaha Member

    West Coast
    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2014
    Messages:
    415
    I used to have a trailer plug in the Crank hole in the front bumper, but I have the correct crank shaft nut and I think I'll get a crank and solve the tow light issue another way.

    Can you crank start a Jeep with an alternator and a dead battery?
     
  18. Mar 9, 2015
    PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Hills of NH
    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2003
    Messages:
    9,827
    Nice to see that. You are inspiring me to make my own.

    But please remember - any 'old car' guy will tell you never to push a crank. See posts #4 and #5 above. Believe them.

    If the engine kicks back you can break an arm or wrist. Really.

    Only pull it upward, with an open palm (don't wrap the thumb).
     
  19. Mar 9, 2015
    jeep2003

    jeep2003 Well-Known Member

    Upstate NY
    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    1,933
    makes sence. i see other people stand in front too. ill try that next time it does look easier
     
  20. Mar 9, 2015
    PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Hills of NH
    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2003
    Messages:
    9,827
    I don't believe so. An alternator requires incoming current to activate it.

    But the beauty is, even a tiny bit of juice in a "dead" battery can be enough to spark the ignition when hand cranking, since the starter isn't draining anything.
     
New Posts