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Power steering bracket

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Harlan, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. Dec 5, 2012
    Harlan

    Harlan Member

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    I have been looking for a set of power steering brackets for my 225 swap. Does anyone know it the Buick 400/455 brackets are the same as the 255/231/350 style?
     
  2. Dec 5, 2012
    hooper

    hooper New Member

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    I found a bracket from a late 60's buick 350. When I was researching I remember people saying the 400/455 would not work.
     
  3. Dec 5, 2012
    Harlan

    Harlan Member

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    Thanks Hooper
    Nick I just saw an answer you put on here a while back. Saying the 225,231,300,340and 350 brackets will work but the 430 won't you were not sure about he 400. Thanks for the clarification.
     
  4. Dec 9, 2012
    Harlan

    Harlan Member

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    So I have scoured CL and ebay for power steering pump bracket. I have found one piece here and there. But I am am not sure which pieces go together. Does anyone have pictures they could post, of the two piece mount for the Buick v6 that is not attached to the pump ? That is the bracket parts alone. That way I would have a better understanding of the parts I have been looking at / for. Thanks, Harlan
     
  5. Dec 9, 2012
    n6ifp

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  6. Dec 10, 2012
    Harlan

    Harlan Member

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    Thanks n6ifp,
    Those are great and I actually have this on my favorites list. But I can't tell where the bends are and if the pieces are like the ones I am looking at. Thanks, Harlan
     
  7. Dec 10, 2012
    jeepers24

    jeepers24 Acreage Brush Beaters

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    There is a lot of info on here on different power steering set-ups for the 225. I have seen quite a few different brackets that seem to work well from 60's-80's buick rear wheel drive v-6's and v-8's. Here is a couple pics of mine with an aluminum bracket off of what I think is a 64-66 (approx) V-8 Buick car. Is is a little bulky and I had to trim off a little in the corner to clear the fender, but it lines up nicely with the rear groove on the crank double pulley. The pulley isn't on the pump in the pictures. Hope this helps.

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  8. Dec 10, 2012
    tarry99

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  9. Dec 11, 2012
    Harlan

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    Thanks guys, for the pictures. I have only seen one of the aluminum mounts...... I think I have seen a few of the rear piece of the two pieces mounts. That is why I need pictures of the mounts way from the pump. but I can not find the front part with the big bend in it....Tarry, I have been thinking about which mount would be best also. I have already fabed up the Saginaw power steering and have sourced the drivers side rear outlet manifold. I know I may have to relocate the steering shaft, but that was expected. I have a set of swinging pedals, power booster and a hydraulic clutch to go in also,(so the high mount might not be good) along with an sm-420. I figure, I might as well do it all at once rather than making a career out of changing it to the way I should have done it the first time. Thanks, Harlan:beer:
     
  10. Dec 11, 2012
    oddfirejeeper

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    i will post some pictures of what i got. it is the high mount aluminum from a 70's buick 350.
     
  11. Dec 11, 2012
    tarry99

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    Harlan,

    What I would do before you do much more is get all the pieces there at one time..............there is a lot of angles that need to be paid attention to and they all start at the Power steering gear box and how & where it is mounted. Important things to look at are what the relationship is 1st between the Pittman Arm and Drag Link. Also the amount of shaft exiting the firewall should remain flexible until all the other issues have been dealt with. I have done my share and everything will fit as long as you allow each component to work in concert with each other. If you have the rear outlet Cast Iron manifold that should be close...........but again it is a case of fitting the parts and even perhaps changing one if it does not completment the others. As far as the Booster and MC go that should not be a problem unless you have a linkage adaptor on the booster mount which pushes the MC out quite a distance from the firewall............Correct Pedal ratios to the Power brakes and Hydraulic MC must also be paid attention to.................I have some pictures I can send.
     
  12. Dec 11, 2012
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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  13. Dec 12, 2012
    Harlan

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    jpflat 2a, Thanks for the pictures.... Tarry, I agree with you on placement. The fabrication and fitment are no problem for me. The biggest problem I am having is finding all of the pieces. (Slowly but surely) The last two are the power steering pump and the radiator. All the rest just need to be assembled. The power steering box was installed with the Scout 44, 2.5" soft ride lift, McRuff shackles and the Big daddy drag link and tie rod. The tie rod and the drag link all almost parallel and do not bind when cycling the axels so there should not bet any bump steer. The swinging Pedals came out of a Cherokee as a unit so the ratios will be correct. As long as I can get enough throw on the slave cylinder it should be ok.
     
  14. Dec 13, 2012
    tarry99

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    :)Keep in mind on the front end with forward shackles on full spring compression the front axle will move about 1/2"-3/4" forward.........if your drag link and tierod are close now they may hit later but only in the straight ahead steering position........I also like to take a few sand bags and put them in the Jeep in whatever position weight would normally be carried......driver, passenger, winch,Etc. just to make sure that later it does not happen............. On the clutch MC cylinder volume which equates to travel at the slave is what needs to be paid attention to.........also your travel @ the slave gets cut in half once it hits the clutch fork............ Novaks slave is what I like...........Good Luck!:D
     
  15. Dec 13, 2012
    jhuey

    jhuey Michigan Jeeper!

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    I have the same one that tarry99 has. I got it off a Buick station wagon with a 350. It gets really tight up in front so I modified the bracket to get the position I needed.

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    You can see the added section to the stock bracket.
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    This is my set up (this engine had issues, I replaced it with the orange one), see how snug everything is. It is a Herm conversion.
     
  16. Mar 19, 2015
    Jonbbrew

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    where there actually old V6 that did not have the bolt holes that are needed to add PS? I have a Dauntless (so i thought) but there is only one bolt hole for any sort of bracket for the PS. Finally found parts per another thread and no where to add them.
     
  17. Mar 19, 2015
    tarry99

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    I see you just posted on another thread on the same subject.............better to keep your questions together.........As I mentioned before........a picture of what you have would be great cause without that knowledge we are lost....................... There is three holes in the front of the cylinder head and that is where it should bolt up to.

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    Jonbbrew

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    tarry99

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    Are you sure you have a Buick 225 V6?........I can't tell much from that photo..........All the Buick 225's I've seen had the 3-bolt pattern on both ends of the heads as will as they later 231's as shown in the photo I supplied..........
     
  20. Mar 20, 2015
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    I cleaned up the cross posts.

    I would second what Terry is saying - get us more pics of the motor as that just doesn't look right. Almost looks like a early 231 that I've only seen a couple of.
     
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