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Voltage problem. Please help!

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Nightstr, Mar 18, 2012.

  1. Mar 18, 2012
    Nightstr

    Nightstr Member

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    Hi everyone, I'm new to the site but been lurking. I have a problem with my 1969 cj5 willys with the 225 dauntless. I bought a new alternator, batt and voltage regulator but it looks like the alternator is just charging my batt to about 11v. Would it be a wiring problem?
     
  2. Mar 18, 2012
    Zia Tux

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    Could be a bad ground. That would be the first thing I would check.
     
  3. Mar 18, 2012
    PeteL

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    Possibly. A bad connection might be fooling the alternator/regulator.

    Are you sure about your voltmeter reading accurately?

    Is the drive belt tight?
     
  4. Mar 18, 2012
    Nightstr

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    Yeah, we've good ground. We checked the connections and everything seams to be right. Does the alternator wire up to the starter?
     
  5. Mar 19, 2012
    Walt Couch

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    Need more info.... What charging system did you have before and what did you replace it with? There are many types of systems that can be installed such as autolite, Delco, Motorola, etc etc.
     
  6. Mar 19, 2012
    Nightstr

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    ^ Before replacing I had the stock system with Motorola regulator and Motorola alternator. I replaced thm with
    Alternator
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    • Part Number: NAE 67091
    • Product Line: NAPA Pro Series Electrical
    • IMPORTANT INFO: w/ 35 Amp Alternator;w/o Air Conditioning;Motorola Type
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    voltage regulator
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    • Part Number: ECH VR1003
    • Product Line: Echlin Ignition Parts
    • IMPORTANT INFO: Motorola Type
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  7. Mar 19, 2012
    Walt Couch

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    Strange but my search NAPA NAE 67091 sez no such thing? Shoot us a picture of how you have the wires connected on the back of the alternator. The BAT terminal on the back of the alt has a heavy wire from it to either the big stud on the starter with the positive battery cable or directly to the positive cable at the battery post. That is if you are not running an ammeter.
     
  8. Mar 20, 2012
    Nightstr

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    Ive got the positive directly to the battery.
     
  9. Mar 20, 2012
    PeteL

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    All "new" stuff makes me nervous. Quality control is non-existant on many items these days.

    Check your battery by swapping in a "known good" unit?
     
  10. Mar 20, 2012
    Walt Couch

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    Looks good so next step is to trouble shoot what you have. Test these with ignition "OFF".

    1= Fan belt tight? If you can turn the alt fan by hand then it is too loose.

    2= 12+volts at battery terminals. Big stud at alt should read same as battery 12+volts.

    If above is good then turn ignition "ON" and check for voltage at the FLD terminal (connection at brown plate).
    If you have a point type distributor then remove the wire going to the + terminal on the coil.

    3= Should have voltage present at field terminal. (varies depending on regulator manufacture).

    4= Red light on dash cluster (GEN) or (ALT) should be fairly bright (eng not running).

    Make sure the terminals at the regulator plug-in are real clean.
     
  11. Mar 20, 2012
    47v6

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    check your voltages at eh battery with the engine running. use a voltmeter to make sure the gauge you're reading is not faulty.
     
  12. Mar 20, 2012
    Nightstr

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    ^ Thank you all. Took the battery in today to get tested and it's bad. It's only charging up to 10v. Pep boys had given me the wrong batt so they changed it out for the right one(the one they had given me was way too small). The connections to the reg are corroded, next step is to clean them up and see what voltage I get. I'll give you guys an update as soon as I finish.
     
  13. Mar 20, 2012
    47v6

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    what the hell? a new battery thats bad.?!
     
  14. Mar 20, 2012
    PeteL

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    Like I said.... I'm always suspicious of "new" parts first.
     
  15. Mar 21, 2012
    Nightstr

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    Yeah, it was weird. The batt would only charge up to 10v after having it on the batt charger for about 8 hours on 2amp charge.
     
  16. Mar 21, 2012
    nickmil

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    It probably sulfated sitting on the shelf. Used to be a big issue when batteries sat on the shelf too long without being charged.


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  17. Mar 21, 2012
    Nightstr

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    Just put in the new batt and cleaned up the regulator wires. It is now giving me 11v when turned to accessories and 12v when driving... I had the alternator tested and it's working good and the belt is on tight.
     
  18. Mar 21, 2012
    PeteL

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    I would expect 13 to 14 volts at normal driving. Is your voltmeter precise?
     
  19. Mar 21, 2012
    Nightstr

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    ^ That's what I'm thinking...
     
  20. Mar 21, 2012
    Nightstr

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    Should the voltmeter be wired to this?


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