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Willys Wagon

Discussion in 'Jeep Truck and FC Tech' started by Jon B., Jun 2, 2022.

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  1. Jon B.

    Jon B. Retired three times; still working.

    It has flat fenders; do posts about the old 4WD wagons go here?

    If not, please point me into the correct sub-forum.

    I have a line on one fairly close to me. It has what appears to be an AMC v8 engine. There are four sticks on the ‘hump’: transmission, t-case, then what? Overdrive? PTO?

    The seller hasn’t been gushing with details but has sent a pile of pics.

    The asking price is $1800. It runs but needs fuel delivery work; pump and/or carburetor.

    Jon
     
    Jon B., Jun 2, 2022
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  2. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Probably OD, PTO shifter would normally be behind the other shifters. Year, condition? Pictures?
     
    Glenn, Jun 2, 2022
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  3. FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

    Correct spot...a few wagon and truck owners here. Glenn has a fabulous one....I have a 58 with sbc swap. Love pics....transfer case would have 2 shifters, one for the transmission, and most likely the 4th is an OD, but could be a PTO for winch.
     
    FinoCJ, Jun 2, 2022
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  4. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Now it is. I moved it, he had it in the flat fender CJ section. ;)
     
    Glenn, Jun 2, 2022
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  5. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    If I wasn't into the originality I'd have done the sbc swap when I bought my wagon. It's definitely a nice engine choice, drove a wagon in the late '60s with one. It had the right amount of power.
     
    Glenn, Jun 2, 2022
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  6. Jon B.

    Jon B. Retired three times; still working.

    I’ve asked the owner to call me so I can ask questions. He doesn’t have the title, so hoops have to be jumped through to get one. I hope a registration card exists somewhere where I can get my hands on it.

    I’ve no idea what model year it is; may I presume that the VIN will tell me?

    The frame appears to be solid, the body has some rust,, the interior is gone except two seats (not original), and some of the glass is broken. No biggie, as it looks as though it’s all flat glass…

    Jon
     
    Jon B., Jun 2, 2022
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  7. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Should be able to get ball park at least. Pictures can help us a lot, generally a range of years can be determined by body features.
     
    Glenn, Jun 2, 2022
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  8. Jon B.

    Jon B. Retired three times; still working.

    Here’s the front of it… A9D65C8D-9D0A-406F-BE93-5D354437278B.jpeg
     
    Jon B., Jun 2, 2022
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  9. Jon B.

    Jon B. Retired three times; still working.

    And the rear - though out of focus… 3D0D3E5E-937A-441D-8C78-4B9F0018CE95.jpeg
     
    Jon B., Jun 2, 2022
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  10. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Does the front of the grill have a 4" round hole on the right side? Is there a metal tag on the driver's side below the seat on the riser? Should be seen when you open the door, if it's there. Can you get a clear picture of the dash? Going by what I see it's around a '57.
     
    Glenn, Jun 2, 2022
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  11. Jon B.

    Jon B. Retired three times; still working.

    Hmmm… I *thought* it was an AMC engine but now am leaning towards Ford. 289?
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  12. Jon B.

    Jon B. Retired three times; still working.

    Glenn,

    Here’s a poor pic of the panel:
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    Jon B., Jun 2, 2022
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  13. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Going by the dash and grill picture I'd say '55 or early '56. This info is from a catalog from Willys America in California.
     
    Glenn, Jun 2, 2022
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  14. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Did you find the serial number plate?
     
    Glenn, Jun 2, 2022
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  15. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    I just realized you don't have it yet...you're considering buying it.
     
    Glenn, Jun 2, 2022
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  16. Jon B.

    Jon B. Retired three times; still working.

    I haven’t yet laid eyes on it. There’s a square hole on the passenger side of the cowl behind the grille, 3-4 inches across.

    Jon
     
    Jon B., Jun 2, 2022
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  17. Jon B.

    Jon B. Retired three times; still working.

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    Jon B., Jun 2, 2022
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  18. Jon B.

    Jon B. Retired three times; still working.

    The dash:
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    Attached Files:

    Jon B., Jun 2, 2022
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  19. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    That shifter is OD for sure. Left to right....Transmission, OD, 2WD/4WD, low range/high range.
     
    Glenn, Jun 2, 2022
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  20. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    The hole I'm referring to wouldn't be on the one you're looking at.
     
    Glenn, Jun 2, 2022
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