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Another Rebirth For The 3b

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by ITLKSEZ, Dec 29, 2020.

  1. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    I’m thinking yes. Now my sites are set on a Ford Dana 24 transfer case. If I use a Ford case, the intermediate shaft can be much shorter and straight. I haven’t discussed the planned axles yet... they were going to be custom anyway, so it won’t matter if the drop is PS or DS.
     
  2. Fireball

    Fireball Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I still think you should opt for both:
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  3. 73 cj5

    73 cj5 Not ready for the junkyard yet

    I was trying to rewind a recoil starter spring on an '85 Briggs and Stratton 8 horse engine with one hand and text with the other hand about that same thing yesterday. :lol:
     
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  4. Rich M.

    Rich M. Shoe salesman 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Sounds like some stretch is in order. There's this guy east of me with an orange stretched 2a. Snake something or other .
     
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  5. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    I got the gear reduction box separated from the rest of the 203 case.

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    When I separated the parts of these cases, I found there were no needle rollers in between the male input/female output junction in the reduction box. o_O
    It was re-assembled at some point without them in it. They are nowhere. The input has a support bearing and rides on the trans output, and the output rides on two other support bearings, so it didn’t destroy anything, but I’m sure it howled in low range. I ordered a set of used rollers off eBay.

    If you’re curious about the size comparison between an NP203 and a Dana 18.....
    It’s like looking at Andre the Giant next to an average man.

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  6. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    This is the mainshaft of the NP203, which will be the input shaft of my 0.50:1 overdrive box.

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    That needed to be shorter.

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    I built an intermediate shaft that will go between the Volvo transaxle and the overdrive.

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    The splined section inserts directly into the differential, and the tube-end will be a press-fit onto the OD’s input shaft and plug welded. Yes, it’s a fairly permanent solution, but I highly doubt this will see enough miles or abuse to wear out the bearing or seal.

    Next up, I needed a way to hold the bearing retainer in place, a way to seal this side of the case (since it was open to the chain-section of the case and shared oil), and possibly a mount surface to build from.

    Enter, the chain drive housing.

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    This got cut up...

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    ...to solve those issues. I’ll cut a plate that will get fully welded to cover the bearing retainer and house an oil seal. I left part of the housing intact for a mount/skid plate, but it might get deleted if I can find a better solution for a mount.

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    Last edited: Feb 19, 2021
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  7. Muzikp

    Muzikp Active Member

  8. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    Volvo 5cyl from a fwd car, with its attached automatic transaxle with welded spider gears, sending power through the mini shaft, to the backwards 203 gear case for 50% overdrive, NP205 (hopefully) transfer case.

    It’ll have a killer crawl ratio, yet still hold highway speeds. High/mid/low range.

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  9. Muzikp

    Muzikp Active Member

    Ah ok... are you going to fix the rear diff leak? It looks significant :D
     
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  10. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    It’s a Jeep. If it’s not leaking, it’s broken. :bananatool:
     
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  11. Muzikp

    Muzikp Active Member

    True, and always the possibility of leaking AND broken :rofl:
     
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  12. dozerjim

    dozerjim Member

    :watch:....wow !! :)
     
  13. it's not a possibility, if it's broken, it's gonna leak even worse.
     
  14. FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

    :oops:Yup that was obvious....:susp:
     
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  15. AKjeff

    AKjeff Member

    I like the idea of running the 203 backwards for an OD.
    I've thought of doing something like that but never got off my backside to try it.
     
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  16. 73 cj5

    73 cj5 Not ready for the junkyard yet

    Is that a pto shaft coming from the front output of the transaxle? :sneak:
     
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  17. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    But of course! To a sprocket/chain to power the Koenig that @tomasinator donated to the cause. :sneak: I’ll have to figure out some sort of disconnect so it’s not always spinning.
     
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  18. ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

    Or maybe a twin belt drive that runs off an AC compressor clutch? :sneak:
     
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  19. this is getting sketchier and sketchier (as one would expect)
     
  20. 73 cj5

    73 cj5 Not ready for the junkyard yet

    Sit down, buckle up, and hold on. You're witnessing the pinnacle of fabrication. :cool::D
     
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