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Another Rebirth For The 3b

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by ITLKSEZ, Dec 29, 2020.

  1. Dec 29, 2020
    ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

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    This thread won’t get rolling until after the snow is done flying, but since I’ve started accumulating parts for it, I might as well start a build thread.

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    This 3b has been with me for around 25 years. I was 20 years old, living in PA, and bought it for $100 with no engine from a buddy in NJ. The body was moderately fair for east coast standards. It was a farm Jeep; it was literally pulled out of a manure pile when Eric bought it and dragged it home just before finding out his wife was pregnant, so his ownership was short. The right rear corner of the body was buried in the manure and was gone. I brought it home and built it into a budget race jeep in 2 months.

    Its general configuration hasn’t changed much in these 25 years. The little F-head has taken me up and down the east coast countless times, and about 10 years ago, it climbed onto the back of a truck and got hauled out here to ID where it’s been plowing dirt and snow. Every part of it has been beat to within an inch of its life, and it needs a complete redo.

    The Experiment didn’t work out like I’d planned, but it did lay some important groundwork for this. This spring, in order to get the 3A on the road, the plates are coming off my DD, and that car is getting recycled. There are 462k miles on that car - and amazingly - the untouched automatic transmission. Although it still works like new, I just don’t trust it like I used to. I’m going to strip every part of the engine and wiring and bring it over to the 3B.

    The goal will be a tough trail jeep that plows snow, and will start and run issue-free in sub-zero temps. I’m tired of the 4-hand dance required to keep a carb running until it’s warmed up, while also operating a plow. Nearly triple the hp with the same fuel consumption will be a nice bonus.

    I’d like to bring everything over from the car, so things like the OBDII, cruise control, dash cluster, everything on the steering column stalks, etc... still work.

    The transmission and transfer case will be this ‘68 SM465 and married Rockwell T-221 that will be adapted to the Volvo B5234FS 5-cyl.

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    The transmission looks and feels great. The shifts are crisp, the oil is clear, and there’s very little surface rust on the gears.

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    The t-case feels a little sloppy and could use a re-shim, but the gears look good.

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    Axles are still TBD. Ideally, I’d like to find a front Scout or Wagoneer D44 and a rear Rodeo D44 or Ford 8.8. Those rears will have the tone ring I need for the speedometer.

    I’m still unsure what I want to do about the frame and cage. I’d love to redo it, but this is a zero-budget (and 6-month) build at this point, so that will probably be re-used.
     
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    Norcal69

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    I'm glad to see there is a time constraint on this build....:watch:
     
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    Fireball

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    Whoohoo! Another ITLKSEZ fab thread!

    :bananatool:
     
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  4. Dec 29, 2020
    ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

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    Don’t get too excited. Think less art and more angle iron. :)
     
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  5. Dec 29, 2020
    Rich M.

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    My winter evening relaxation is complete now.
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  6. Dec 29, 2020
    ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

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    I’m putting this here for my own future reference...

    Pilot bearing that will fit the Volvo crank bore and the Chevy input - 15 x 32 x 9 - NSK6002DDU

    Clutch disc, 1 1/8 in.- 10-Spline, 9.125 in. Diameter - Centerforce 383824

    Adapter plate - 6061 Aluminum Plate | Midwest Steel & Aluminum
     
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  7. Dec 29, 2020
    Fireball

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    Something like this then?
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    homersdog

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    What steering setup are you going to use?
     
  9. Dec 29, 2020
    ITLKSEZ

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    That pitman arm!!!! :rofl:
     
  10. Dec 29, 2020
    ITLKSEZ

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    That’s staying put. It’s got a Saginaw box out front. I’ll use the Volvo (Saginaw type 2) pump to run the plow and the steering again. I’ll just redo the in-cab part to incorporate the Volvo column. Maybe I’ll keep the airbags just for the added suspense. :D
     
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  11. Dec 29, 2020
    tomasinator

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    You should start a service. A customer will ship you a jeep plus another car. You return a rebuilt jeep that is an amalgamation of the two vehicles. I'd like to reserve a 2021 slot now. :D
     
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    47v6

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    I need this service!
     
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    Fireball

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    We all do. I've got a pile of flatfender parts and a small block Ford that just sit there and never assemble themselves.
     
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    47v6

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    I know. Sick of these parts looking for someone else to save themselves. When are they going to make something of themselves! Should ship them off to Ryans to whip some sense into them! Jeeps these days!
     
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    Twin2

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    that looks like a florida swamp jeep . minus the tractor tires
     
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    Jw60

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    You can have whatever donor car as long as it a Volvo...
     
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    wheelie

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    You're keeping the camo right????

    This is gonna be good. :watch:
     
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    ITLKSEZ

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    :ninja: Maybe, but only because a few cans of rustoleum will be past budget. After a quarter century, I’d sorta like to see what it looks like in a solid color.
     
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    47v6

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    Ive seen lots in a solid rust color...its over rated.:lol: the vintage urban camo is kinda nice... I'll sport you some grey, white and black cans of paint if you wanna "freshen it up".. hahhhhahhahh!
     
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    FinoCJ

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    I love the stance on your flatfender...hope you get it assembled one day
     
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