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Which U-joints Are Compatible With 1967 Cj-5 Driveshafts?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by cj51967, Nov 18, 2016.

  1. Nov 18, 2016
    cj51967

    cj51967 New Member

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    I edited this post from what I originally posted after doing a lot of research.

    My Jeep is a 1967 CJ-5 made by Kaiser with the 225 V6 engine.

    here is what I now believe is correct, much of this based on what people here have posted:

    Front driveshaft uses two Spicer 5-248X ujoints. Moog Precision 361 can be used in place of those as can the Crown J8126610. One pair of opposing bearing caps contains grooves that have c-rings snapped into them and these are the bearing caps that attach to the driveshaft. Those c-rings go on the inside of the driveshaft. This set of bearing caps also has a different diameter than the other set of opposing bearing caps.

    Rear driveshaft uses two Spicer 5-153X ujoints. None of the 4 bearing caps have any grooves in them because none use c-clips that go inside the driveshaft. The ujoint on the Quadratec website described as "Dana Spicer 1310" is the Spicer 5-153X because elsewhere on that webpage the part is shown as being the Spicer 5-153X. The description "Spicer 1310" had previously misled me to think this was a different part than the Spicer 5-153X.

    The ujoints used on the front driveshaft can't be used on the rear driveshaft and vice-versa.

    Feel free to jump right in if you think any of this is wrong.
     
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  2. Nov 18, 2016
    mortten

    mortten I can’t put my finger on it

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    Are you talking about the front or rear shaft? What engine do you have. IIRC the 1310 joints work in all rear shafts and in the front on the 4 cylinder. The V6 used smaller joints on the front to clear the starter motor.
     
  3. Nov 18, 2016
    1967 CJ5A

    1967 CJ5A Mike

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    Some of the later 4cyls also used small joints in front.
     
  4. Nov 18, 2016
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member 2020 Sponsor

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    Here are some specific model number is using the V6 with the smaller front u-joint:

    For reference or record sake I used Spicer 5-153X for the rear (same as a 1310) and the Moog/Precision 361 for the front (I couldn't get the equivalent spicer 5-248X).

    good info in this thread: Ujoint small vs. Large Debate.

    One thing to note - the caps are not the exact same size for the 361 on the front. It does matter which go into the drive shaft and which go into the yoke.
     
  5. Nov 18, 2016
    cj51967

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    My CJ-5 had the 225 V6 (which I replaced with a GM 252 V6 which was almost a drop-in replacement). Thanks for that information. Glad I didn't rely on sellers' descriptions on the web that the same u-joint can be used all around on both front & rear driveshafts. Now, I'll see if I can find & buy the parts you recommended.
     
  6. Nov 18, 2016
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  7. Nov 18, 2016
    cj51967

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    I just looked on the Moog website for information on the Moog Precision 361 which you recommended for the front driveshaft and according to the information there, it fits the CJ-5s from 1968 to 1974. Suspiciously though, their fitment chart never distinguishes between CJ-5s with or without the 225 V6 engine which my Jeep has.

    That seems to rule out using it for my 1967 CJ-5 with the V6 engine.

    Here is the link to their website where I read that information:

    MOOG-361 - U-Joint made by MOOG

    Is their fitment information right or wrong? Did you use the Moog Precision 361 on a 1967 CJ-5 with a 225 V6 or did you use it on a 68 to 74 CJ-5 with the 225 V6?

    How do you get off the c-clips that are on the inside of the driveshaft yokes? There is not much room there to maneuver tools. Do you put the driveshaft in a vice and use 2 screwdrivers at the same time to pry open each end of the c-clip or is there some tool or other method that works better than that?
     
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  8. Nov 18, 2016
    45es

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    The smaller u-joint, the one you noted at 2.438" wide is a 1110/1210 series joint. It can also be obtained at Summit Racing.

    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sdh-5-248x

    To replace the four u-joints (front and rear drive shafts) you will need 3ea. 1310 series joints and 1ea. 1110/1210 series joint.
     

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