what 11" brake parts do I need off a DJ5?

Local guy on Craigslist.com has some early '70's DJ5's for parts. What do I need to get from him for 11" brakes for my CJ5? I'm thinking just backing plates and drums, as all other stuff would be replaced anyway, right? How hard is it to find all the little stuff (shoes, springs, cylinders, etc.) for DJ5 brakes?

 

If you an get it all by all means get it, you don't necessarily have to replace the small parts just the shoes. They parts can be had at most decent Flaps though if the parts are missing or in bad shape.

 

Uhhh, haven't you read this?

I'd just grab everything from the backing plates out. You know, to save you from having to drive all over looking for parts like I did.

 

He said in an email that the "pads" were missing, so I assumed that meant shoes, and I also assumed if the shoes were gone, so were the springs. I'll have to call him and talk about it when/if I get a phone #.

 

Well, as long as you snag the backing plates, you "should" be able to get everything else new. Go for it!

 

If you're converting to dual m/c and have all drums, do you need the proportioning valve? or do you just use it as a junction block?

Ron,

I agree. Grab everything you can but all you really have to get are the backing plates and drums. Everything else you can buy locally.

 

Latest email indicates all he really has that's usable is the backing plates, waiting on a price for them. Can anybody give me a ballpark idea what they should cost, or at least how much is too much? Mucho appreciated!

 

I got a pair from someone here for $50 IIRC. Local Jeep junkyard wanted $100, and another place would only sell me the whole set up (backing plates out) for $275. IMHO, if you can get them for <$75 or so, do it.

Good luck!

 

Inspect the backing plates before you buy. If there are grooves worn in the "bearing plates" (for lack of a better name), the self adjusters won't work. The edge of the brake shoes slide on little plateaus that rise up from the backing plate - these are sometimes worn.

JMO - forget using the old hardware. If these are 11" Bendix brakes, you should be able to buy a hardware kit for them. Get the rods that go between the wheel cylinder and the shoes. There's nothing wrong with reusing the drums if they can be turned, but I'd go with new hardware, cylinders, shoes, and hoses. JMO - don't go cheap on parts for the brakes.

 

Thanks guys! I've got a feeling that I'll have to remove them myself, so they better be cheap.

 

He wants $10 apiece for them. Looks like I'm gonna have me some 11" backing plates.

Haven't found out yet if I have to pull them or not. So, anybody pulled any off a DJ5? Do I still have to get one of those special pullers and yank the rear axles? What about the front backing plates on a DJ5, since it's not 4wd?

He's pretty close, around 10 miles, so I can make a couple of trips if I have to. I've never taken any axles apart, if you can't tell.

 

I don't think there are any clips on a flanged D44. Once you unbolt the retainer plate, you'll need a slide hammer to pull the axle and bearing out (usually). If the axle is an M20, the backing plates won't work.

 

The guy emailed me back that the axles are off, and he's going to pull the backing plates off for me. 10 clams apiece! Happy happy joy joy!!

 

Picked these up today, the guy even carried them out to me in a box ready to go, for $40. Can't kick about that! Said they're off a '76 DJ. Two of them do have some nasty grooves worn in them like Tim mentioned, but I think I can weld 'em up and grind 'em smooth. The rears are setup for the parking brake cables, I guess you just plug the holes?

Part numbers on them are...
front left.....3201047-L
front right...3201048-R
rear left......3201051-L
rear right....3201052-R

Do they look like the right ones?

 

They sure look like the ones I pulled from a 72 Waggy. I bought my setup for $35 each at Speedway salvage yard up in Erie. Good score for $10 a pop. Let me know how you plug the rear brake cable holes. I haven't got that far in my conversion yet.

tommy b