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VIN On Frame

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by houstons4, May 31, 2014.

  1. May 31, 2014
    houstons4

    houstons4 New Member

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    New to the Jeep world let alone a restoration project. Just found a 67 CJ-5 with a inline 4, for my 13 and 15 year old boys and I to restore. VIN tag on firewall is long gone, I have a title that was signed over but not transfered to the seller. From reading on here, my first priority is to match the vin number on the title (10 digit) to the vin on the frame. I understand about on the top of the frame it is located but still can not find it yet. Do I have to take the body off to get to the frame vin stamp?
     
  2. May 31, 2014
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    If it is stamped on there it should be pretty much directly below the battery box. You shouldn't have to remove the tub. Actually I meant battery tray not box.
     
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  3. May 31, 2014
    timgr

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    Pretty sure it's only the sequential part of the VIN - not including any prefix like "8305" - that is, only the "serial number."
     
  4. May 31, 2014
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    :iagree:

    If the frame is rusty/dirty it's easy to remove the fender to get better access for cleanup, should look something like this-

    [​IMG]

    H.
     
  5. Jun 7, 2014
    houstons4

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    Spent some time trying to find the serial number on the frame under the battery tray with no success. I have found a engine code on the F 134 4 cylinder though. After reading many threads on this site regarding the number on the engine, I'm still not clear. From what I've gathered all F4-134's prior to "67 started with 4J which is what I have (title claims it's a 1967). The remaining engine codes following that are a 6 digit number. What do those mean?
     
  6. Jun 8, 2014
    MikeON

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    On my 1963 CJ5, the VIN number was on top of the frame near the starter, a little farther back than the battery tray. (It has the battery up front near the radiator, not on the firewall).
     
  7. Jun 8, 2014
    Glenn

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    I now realize my post might be misleading. I assumed the battery tray was on the firewall on his, not on the frame like the earlier ones. Bottom line is the tub does not have to come off because the number is a bit forward of the firewall.
     
  8. Jun 8, 2014
    houstons4

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    Thanks, I did figure that out being battery trays are different for the 6 cylinders and 4 cylinders. Still haven't found the stamping yet though, will be doing more sanding tonight.

    Found the stamping for the engine code of 4J454524, which I'm curious as to what this describes? 4J is supposed to indicate all F134's prior to 1967, and the following digits represent the day of the year it was manufactured, with some engine options for the last two digits? This doesn't jive being this CJ-5 is titled a 1967, although I suppose anything is possible? But I doubt this is a 1945 block. Any help deciphering this engine code is greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Jim
     
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  9. Jun 11, 2014
    houstons4

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    Found it, under years of history mostly rust that needed sanded. It was right where all of you said it would be, adjacent to the starter, at the upward bend of the frame just behind the motor mount bracket. It is the sequential number and the best part is it matches the title.

    Interesting enough, this vehicle is a week younger than my wife from my best guesstimate.

    Thank you all for your help, this mini milestone would not have occurred without the generosity of those of you that help on this site. Now I just need to figure out if this is the original block.

    Jim
     
  10. Jun 11, 2014
    PeteL

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    "this vehicle is a week younger than my wife."

    You might be wise to keep that information quiet!
    :)
     
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