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V6 Dauntless Headers

Discussion in 'Early CJ-5 and CJ-6 Tech' started by Donnie, Apr 25, 2019.

  1. Apr 25, 2019
    Donnie

    Donnie Member

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    What are my options for replacing my headers on the old girl, the old ones are in rough shape. Trying to keep cost down too.
    Cheers
     
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  2. Apr 25, 2019
    Tom_Hartz

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    Advanced Adapters or Novak are the only ones that I know of.
     
  3. Apr 25, 2019
    mike starck

    mike starck Member Sponsor 2019 Sponsor

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    Hedman #69420 use Remflex # 13-004 header gaskets. I have headers on '69 and stock exhaust on '71 .No real preference for either one
     
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  4. Apr 25, 2019
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member Sponsor

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    I went from fenderwell headers from the PO to manifolds and traditional exhaust....I much prefer it. Don't know if that is the most cost effective but might be worth considering.
     
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  5. Apr 25, 2019
    timgr

    timgr Jeepin' Nerd Sponsor 2019 Sponsor

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    Iron manifolds will be cooler, quieter, leak less, and be stronger/more durable. My boss ran Jeepster Baja race cars and used iron manifolds exclusively. They have their appeal, especially for a Jeep.
     
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  6. Apr 25, 2019
    Buildflycrash

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    This was my first auto project of any kind so I wanted an EASY option. I used the Advance Adapter headers. Made it easy for the power steering mod. Lots of room and looks good.

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. Apr 25, 2019
    Donnie

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    That's a nice setup my friend
     
  8. Apr 25, 2019
    homersdog

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    Wow, we knew it was coming to this. A wireless Jeep!
     
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  9. Apr 25, 2019
    cj6/442

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    I wheel on rocks ,hate the headmans they exit right in line with the front tire ,,,,,ditched those for a set of Hooker super comps and that fit close to the frame much better ,,, but they aren't made anymore and almost impossible to find
     
  10. Apr 26, 2019
    Chris Insull

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    Been running AA headers since my PS install in ‘98. Nice, thick flanges and never had a leak or issues with rust thru. Money well spent...
     
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  11. Aug 26, 2019
    zinertia2

    zinertia2 "and which part are you keeping?"

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    Anyone tried the Novak headers in a pre 72 cj5 or earlier M38A1 with steering column in factory location with a saginaw power conversion? Where the new column just has the splines protruding through the floor? Neither Novak or Sanderson has sufficient dimensions for me to see if I can pass the steering shaft past the rear tube. Someone with an uninstalled set willing to draw a profile to the rearmost tube and flange would likely solve my dilemma!!
     
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  12. Aug 26, 2019
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member Sponsor

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    I helped Eric at Novak design the block hugger headers they sell (at least I believe they are the same ones). You can see some pics HERE of what it looked like.

    To remember - these are pics of the design work on a rig with a 2" body lift. It would take a bit more to get them to work there, but not much. They do work great on the stock types of setups. Brandon across the street from me is running them on his rig, and had the exhaust plumbed back in a stock configuration from them.
     
  13. Aug 26, 2019
    47v6

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    Those are beautiful. I want to make myself a set when I get motivated.. Also, those engine mounts are what i need to make.
     
  14. Aug 26, 2019
    zinertia2

    zinertia2 "and which part are you keeping?"

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    Thanks!
    Based on the pictures Warloch they are now on order!
    :D
    Better arrive in an unlabeled box!!
     
  15. Aug 31, 2019
    masscj2a

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    Please let us know more when you install them. Thinking of replacing old rusty iron ones myself.
     
  16. Sep 15, 2019
    zinertia2

    zinertia2 "and which part are you keeping?"

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    The headers have arrived!
    Spent first week working out the steering - all fits w a few adjustments.

    Finally tried the passenger side and it does not fit around the factory v6 mounts. It also barely would go in front of the mini starter I have and dumps right on top of driveshaft.
    NOT like the passenger picture on Warloch’s site (to my eyes)

    Interesting that both headers are exactly the same and wouldn't fit between frame and starter like pictures on passenger side.

    Sent pics and briefly talked to Novak, waiting on response - but does appear to be two driver side headers instead of two different sides (if there is a difference like the pictures seem to show)

    Warloch
    Checking - are the driver and passenger sides different? Or are my eyes deceiving me from the posted pictures?
     
  17. Sep 16, 2019
    zinertia2

    zinertia2 "and which part are you keeping?"

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    Current design as sold by Novak and made by Sanderson has both sides mirrored- placing the passenger collector output right over driveshaft and it also requires a mini starter. Collector fits in front of starter. My factory V6 frame mounts will also not work.

    More info to follow as I receive it
    Dennis
     
  18. Sep 17, 2019
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member Sponsor

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    I answered the PM, but figured I'd put it here to... They 'used to be different'. Getting it to clear the starter nice and clean was one of the specific things I worked on with Eric at the time.
     
  19. Sep 18, 2019
    zinertia2

    zinertia2 "and which part are you keeping?"

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    Tried the alternate (somewhat different shaped) engine mount and it is slightly better.
    Header still will not fit in place - factory engine mounts interfere w header
    Dennis
     
  20. Sep 18, 2019
    Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2019 Sponsor

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    Are you sure that you have correct engine mounts? Do you have two of the same side header? It doesn't make sense that the header design would be changed to the point that it no longer fits in jeeps...... Perhaps some pictures would enlighten us......
     

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