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Stainless bolt kit.

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by mb82, Sep 27, 2006.

  1. Sep 27, 2006
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    Do you guys think it is worth it? Not from the stainless bolt point of view but to save me from having to make 10K trips to lowes or HD to find bolts as I am putting chia back together?
     
  2. Sep 27, 2006
    Sledgehammer

    Sledgehammer Sure, I'll try it

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    I don't know how much they cost but I know the feeling. I would at least buy several of all the common sizes. What is left over can be the beginnings of a good bolt collection.
     
  3. Sep 27, 2006
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    IIRC $109
     
  4. Sep 27, 2006
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I bought one and am happy with it. Some of it I'll never use (just try getting those lower w/s hinge screws out..:rofl: ) but have used quite a bit and will more as time goes on.
     
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    Sledgehammer

    Sledgehammer Sure, I'll try it

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    Its all up to you. Just don't use allen bolts. The PO of my JEEP used them everywhere on mine and it has been a hige pain. My .02
     
  6. Sep 27, 2006
    JZ

    JZ Member

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    After about my 10th trip to the HW store, I broke down and ordered the stainless kit. Since the project has been in pieces for over 2 years, I am having trouble finding the right places for the contents of all the packages. I could not find a package that corresponded to the body to rear cross-member. The rear floor was asking me for bolts to the frame, and the bolts in the kit were clearly too large.

    I ended up by purchasing some additional SS hardware from McMaster-Carr to supplement the Stainless kit.

    Still have a lot of packages to go. But that is my .015...
     
  7. Sep 27, 2006
    fletcher0780

    fletcher0780 Member

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    Does anyone have a link or info on where I can get a kit?
     
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    JZ

    JZ Member

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    Rampdog

    Rampdog knuckle buster

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    Dangit!:mad: After I made fourty-thousand dang trips to the store!!!!:cry: :cry:
    Oh well, at least it's all bolted up for now.
     
  10. Sep 27, 2006
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    If I were to do it all over again, (and I might somewhere down the road) this is the way I would go. Oh, and while you're on that page in the KRAGE website, order up the Prothane body mount kit too. It is just UNBELIEVABLE how quiet my jeep got once I got all those poly pucks into place. Of course I needed to make a coupla 5-6 more trips to the hardware store for longer bolts, but it was definitely worthwhile!
     
  11. Sep 28, 2006
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Well I'll be the different voice here. I thought long and hard about doing this and then decided against it. I have SS body mount bolts but the rest of the stuff I wanted stronger bolts for. Besides I hated putting antiseize on every dang bolt in my vehicle and having to possibly break the SS bolts if the stuff washed out with age and I needed to remove the bolt. As far as replacing the bolts and making a bunch of trips I broke it down into groups and went to the hardware stor in 2-3 trips, I'm sure doing this cost more and it definately took more time, but I have grade 8 cad plated bolts, nuts and washers almost everywhere, no rust after 20 months.
    There are good points and bad points to both, its pretty much up to you and weighing the options.
     
  12. Sep 28, 2006
    tommy b

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    One important thing to remember. If you're using a stainless nut on a stainless bolt, be SURE to lubricate the threads with some type of antisieze lubricant,grease that won't wash out going through streams and such. Otherwise the threads will gall. Which means that the first time you try to remove the nut, the thread surfaces will start to peel off and roll up between the bolt and nut, resulting in the parts being bound up. Then you will either twist off the bolt or break your socket. I used to work at an aerospace company, where we used a lot of stainless fasteners, This is one lesson I learned that has stuck (pun intended) with me all these years. FWIW.

    tommy b
     
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    toolbox

    toolbox If you get bored, I've got the projects.

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    Interesting. Does anyone offer a harware kit in anything other than SS? My Jeep was completely torn down when I bought it, and it only had one box of hardware with it...I have a feeling they must have lost all the other "little bits" for it somewhere along the line. My first thought was to go the junkyard with a cordless impact driver and grab a bunch of everything off jukyard Jeeps...would cost next to nothing, but would be time consuming and I'd probably have to clean all of it up to use it. Next thought was the hardware store, but it seems like I always run into bolts that are an odd thread pitch or size on cars that they just don't have. That kit looks like a much better solution, but I'd probalby rather not have SS since I'm trying to keep it original...
     
  14. Sep 28, 2006
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    Mike I know what you are saying. Personally I don't want the stainless but since that is the only bolt kit I know of then I will have to go for that. Basicly I just am too lazy to drive the 5 mins to lowes to get bolts when I need them. With my track record of getting the wrong size bolt I just want one thing to be easy( or at least relively.)
     
  15. Sep 28, 2006
    tommy b

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    You could email the manufacturer of the SS kit and ask him specifically what bolt sizes and quantities his kit contains. Then use this info to go to the hardware store and buy them in carbon 5 steel. :twisted:

    tommy b
     
  16. Sep 28, 2006
    sixtyfive5

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    As an alternative to SS...

    In my rebuild, I've been going with cad plated grade 8 bolts. I get mine in bulk (by the pound) at a local chain of Fleet Farm stores. They sell grade 5 and 8 by the pound in many sizes - it's all the same cost per pound so you don't have to count out the number x the price, etc. I just go there and buy 5-10 pounds at a time of various sizes. Then bring them home a dump in a bucket. Not the most organized way - but I can always find the length I need and a matchnig nut and washer. I would check fleet or implement stores if you have such a thing in your area (like Fleet Farm or Tractor Supply Company). The prices are really reasonable and buying in bulk is very convienient.
     
  17. Sep 28, 2006
    evanjm

    evanjm Yeah, it's got an F-head.

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    I'll have to say, I don't like the SS kit. I ordered it for my 258 in my CJ7--I broke more of those bolts just trying to tighten them to torque specs! Not fun.

    I ended up taking everything out, and buying large amounts of Grade 8 bolts, nuts, and wahers. Now every bit of hardware, on all my jeeps, is grade 8. It's nice knowing that you're bolts aren't going to rust out anytime soon--and that they're stronger than stock.

    Just my .02

    - Evan
     
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