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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Zoomer, Dec 20, 2002.

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  1. Sep 19, 2004
    gte636p

    gte636p Member

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    hey good eye zoomer... kinda bad to write the wrong year down and say i know it's right. don't even know how i hit a 0 instead of 1, they're wayy far from eachother.
     
  2. Sep 20, 2004
    Mudweiserjeep

    Mudweiserjeep JEEP: Bouncy and Fun

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    With my s/n 363102 1970 unknown month I am guessing mine was made in November 1969? My title says AMC but AMC didn't buy Jeep from Kaiser until Feb. 1970. Maybe I have a Kaiser jeep?
     
  3. Sep 20, 2004
    sparky

    sparky done Staff Member Founder

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    Titles don't count. I had a '60 Jeep Truck that was made by AMC. :rofl:

    Translated, 1960 Willys 2-226 4WD. How the heck AMC ever got on that title is beyond me.
     
  4. Sep 20, 2004
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I now own a '64 Willys Convertable... 8) I'd say most of the title nonsense comes from transfers across state lines - there doesn't seem to be consistent naming and categorizing of vehicles. The guy here in MI didn't care, he just wanted the computer to be happy and get me out of there.
     
  5. Sep 21, 2004
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    Greg:
    looks like you're on your way to getting a legit VIN/s.n. on your rig. How does 57548 127334 sound? Well I've alrady done an online inquiry to the VIN to no avail. Might be time for a letter to Columbus.
     
  6. Sep 21, 2004
    gscj5

    gscj5 H2 Recovery Team

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    Sounds great to me Allan! I would like a pic of your Vin tag though. I found that one on ebay also, if I have to I will use it. Hey where is that jeep you found... the 62?
     
  7. Sep 21, 2004
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    SSDutch's 1964 VIN:
     
  8. Sep 21, 2004
    gscj5

    gscj5 H2 Recovery Team

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    Thanks Dude! 8)
     
  9. Sep 21, 2004
    gscj5

    gscj5 H2 Recovery Team

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    Whats an 8405?
     
  10. Sep 21, 2004
    gscj5

    gscj5 H2 Recovery Team

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    Oh duh CJ6!
     
  11. Sep 21, 2004
    Boyink

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    8)
     
  12. Sep 21, 2004
    sparky

    sparky done Staff Member Founder

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    That confirms what remember of my 62's tag. It was stamped like that but said "Willys Motor Company" on it.
     
  13. Sep 21, 2004
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    Greg it's in a nearby town behind a bar. The guy who owns the bar also owns the Jeep so I'm told, so I'd have to sneak in there one day and snap a pic of the tag. Hopefully someone else with a Willys tag will be able to post a pic.

    Oh, my '64 tux tag looks like Boyink's, which is diffo than that of the '62. The change must have been in '63 or so. :beer:
     
  14. Sep 21, 2004
    sparky

    sparky done Staff Member Founder

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    '64 was when it became Kaiser Jeep Corp. I'm guessing that's when the change was...
     
  15. Sep 21, 2004
    gscj5

    gscj5 H2 Recovery Team

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    Anybody got a 62 or earlier VIN Plate Pic of a CJ5?
     
  16. Sep 21, 2004
    kamel

    kamel Senior Curmudgeon

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    I saw that the first 1971 cj5 was listed by the part catalog as 8305 015 273245 in an earlier posting.

    Then I saw someone type in that the 273245 maybe should be 373245 and that there could have been a typo.

    The answer is no typo, the first serial number in 71 could easily have been
    8305 015 273245.

    You see, the 4 cylinder jeeps had serial numbers that began with a '2' and the 6 cylinder jeeps had serial numbers that began with "3".

    note that the serial prefix was 8305 015 which translated
    8305 = cj5
    015 = non smog f-134

    So, the part listing was right as far as it went, but the cj5 serial numbers were kinda non-linear since the first digit also indicated no of cylinders.

    Jeep started this in 1968 when they made a lot of changes to the cj5.

    I don't know if they did the same thing with the cj6, but probably.

    kamel
     
  17. Sep 21, 2004
    sparky

    sparky done Staff Member Founder

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    Good info, thanks Kamel
     
  18. Sep 21, 2004
    gscj5

    gscj5 H2 Recovery Team

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    I just raised your Karma level Kamel though you cant see it. :shock:
     
  19. Sep 21, 2004
    Willys Motors

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    I was headed down that path but couldn't find proof for CJ's, only J series.

    The same year beginning documents show starting serials as

    1967 185971
    1968 228800
    1969 244728
    1970 259487
    1971 273245

    Now the question is did they 'skip' a 2xxxxx number if there was a 3xxxxx number? In other words was there both a 273245 AND a 373245?
     
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  20. Sep 21, 2004
    Zoomer

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    So is there anyone with a '69 - '71 with a 4 cylinder besides TOEUPP ('69 model with Serial #258274)? If we had some more numbers we could help verify the starting serial numbers by year. I see Kamel has a '71 4 cylinder in the for sale section, do you care to list your serial number for us Kamel?
     
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