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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Zoomer, Dec 20, 2002.

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  1. Sep 15, 2004
    Mudweiserjeep

    Mudweiserjeep JEEP: Bouncy and Fun

    tipp city, ohio
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    Re: VIN Numbers

    We are close to finding the birth month of my jeep. Jim's s/n puts mine in early 1970 maybe. My title says AMC. I don't know what month Kaiser sold jeep to AMC. We are definately close. Thanks hippo393 for driving this.
     
  2. Sep 15, 2004
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    Something is wrong with the serial number portion of the info above.
    My '71 was built in November 1970, and the serial number portion of my VIN is 369673... so I doubt the accuracy of the above number as being the starting s/n for the '71 model year. :?

    Tiger Shark's '69 model as posted above has a s/n of 362713 from October 1969, confirming that something is awry with that info from the AMC dealers price list :? WM, you may want to look into the source of that info, maybe it's a typo/misprint, it doesn't seem to match with known actual serial numbers.
     
  3. Sep 15, 2004
    TigerShark

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    Maybe it should be 373245. That would bring things a little more in line.

    Jim
     
  4. Sep 15, 2004
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    My 71's s/n is 373590.

    Ha ha I've learned not to rely on title informaiton. On my tux, it has the model description "C5A", and make as "JPEG". So I'm the proud owner of a picture file format. R)
    On the '71 it has the model as "UJ5". :rofl: Huh??!??
    Anyway, AMC bought Kaiser-Jeep in Feb. '70. :stout:

    EDIT: Ok I found the VIN info I was looking for. It was jjfalconer's link:
    http://mysite.verizon.net/jandjfalconer/CJ5VIN.htm
    No info beyond '67 though. :(
     
  5. Sep 15, 2004
    John A. Shows

    John A. Shows Comic Relief

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    Re: VIN Numbers

    My '69 is 8305 C17 352694
     
  6. Sep 15, 2004
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    John that '69 I had last year was right behind yours on the assembly line: 8305 C17 352833. But I don't know the date of manuf. Do you?
     
  7. Sep 15, 2004
    toeupp

    toeupp Cup Crusher

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    Re: VIN Numbers

    Hello every one.. Wow iam glad I found this site... My 69 Cj5 VIN is 8305015 258274. I would love to know when it was built
     
  8. Sep 15, 2004
    Zoomer

    Zoomer eJeeper (walking)

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  9. Sep 15, 2004
    FlyingTheDunes

    FlyingTheDunes New Member

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    Re: VIN Numbers

    my '69 CJ5 VIN 8305017 355972

    I looked in a book at Borders (Jeep History?) which says its a left hand drive CJ5 with V6 w/emission.

    According to that book some 20,000-odd CJ5s were made in 1969 and a substancially lesser number of CJ6s (4,000???? Don't quote me).

    1969 was the second-highest CJ5 run year for pre-71's. Another year in the 60's sold a few thousand more.
     
  10. Sep 15, 2004
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    Re: VIN Numbers

    both of yours are canadian built in windsor.

    83 = cj5 4x4
    05 = open body
    c = canada
    1 = left hand drive
    7 = v6 with smog control


    mine is 8305c17 350759

    also a '69 when it gets here i'll look to see if i can find any closer date markings any where on the chassis etc.
     
  11. Sep 15, 2004
    gscj5

    gscj5 H2 Recovery Team

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    Re: VIN Numbers

    Hey Hippo I think you have me Greg confused with Mud but thats ok because we both have the same problem but mines a 62. Mine was a rebuild before I bought it and the Serial number was changed...why do they do that? My Serial Number is MVIN 34718 IND. It does not even have the 57548 in front. I do have the engine number though its 4J283231. I was looking for a cross reference with the engine number. so I can get an idea of the serial number. I am putting on a new tub and want to get a serial number as close to the original if the BMV will let me change it.
     
  12. Sep 15, 2004
    gscj5

    gscj5 H2 Recovery Team

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    Hippo I remember you said something about the serial number being on the pasenger side of the frame. could you get me a pic of the exact location?
     
  13. Sep 15, 2004
    CJMac

    CJMac New Member

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    If the above is true what is mine:83050 37 371867
    That's off of my 71 CJ5 V-6 left hand drive.
    Jeff
     
  14. Sep 16, 2004
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    Sure no prob. I'll snap a pic tomorrow. Dang I thought Vernco had a pic of it already, but I just checked there and no pic. :( Oh, you're right, I did get you and mud confused. :oops: I wonder if your odd VIN means that it's a remanufactured VIN from Indiana. ?? Just a guess. :rofl: I wonder what Indiana's procedures are/were for re-doing VINs. In Ohio, re-VINned rigs get a current year on the title. A guy I know has a CJ-7, but because of lost title and stuff the VIN was remade to a 2002 model. Do you have the title? If so, a title history report can be made.

    CJ Mac the "3" in that 6th position is very strange. Should be a "1" if it's left hand drive. Where did you retrieve that number from--the title, the VIN tag on the firewall, or the sticker on the dash??
     
  15. Sep 16, 2004
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    Greg, just found this on Ohio's title forms webstite on the FAQs:
    So all we need to do is to determine the VIN (probably 57548 ) and then find the serial number on the frame if it's there.

     
  16. Sep 16, 2004
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    Greg I just found out that your Jeep (or title) was transferred out of the country at some point, and a "new" title was made about 4 months before you owned it. Do you have the p.o.'s name on the title?

    Just go to http://www.dmv.org/oh-ohio/dmv-vehicle-registration.php, then click "Online Title Inquiry", then click "Search by ID #" and input your VIN (no spaces) to see more details. HTH!! :stout:
    -Alan
    P.S. A visit to the Brookville title bureau with copy of above info in-hand may help track down who/when/why/where/what happened to the orig title. Or a letter to the HQ in Columbus.
     
  17. Sep 16, 2004
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    83 = cj5 4x4
    05 = open body
    O = disregard (i assume toledo, usa made as opposed to canada windsor, ontario plant right near toledo)
    3 = i have no idea, recheck # should be 1 or 2 according to the site i list below
    7 = v6 with smog control
    371867 = sequential serial #


    i got these from specialty parts site

    http://www.specialtyparts.com/jeep/vins/55yr71cjvin.php

    or http://www.specialtyparts.com/jeep/vins/
     
  18. Sep 16, 2004
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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  19. Sep 16, 2004
    org1970cj5

    org1970cj5 New Member

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    Re: VIN Numbers

    My 70 Renegade I was built in Mar 1970 and the VIN is 364613. Has anyone ever seen production numbers for the Renegade I's?
    Robert
    70 CJ5 RI
    77 CJ7
    83 CJ7
    84 CJ7
     
  20. Sep 16, 2004
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    Here's the location of the stamp on my '64 tux:

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    I had cleaned it off and used a white-out pen all round the numbers, then lightly sanded off the excess so the numbers would be visible. Location is on the passenger side engine compartment, on top of the frame rail above the rear spring mount. I had to take a wire brush and some brake cleaner to the area in order to find it. Good luck! :beer:
     
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