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NDT siping

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by unclebill, Jan 13, 2011.

  1. Jan 16, 2011
    Rondog

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    Talk to us, O' Defender of the NDT's.....experiences? Thoughts? I only want to putt along on scenic trails, no rocks, snow, paved road use, etc. Mostly dirt roads. A little grocery-getting too.
     
  2. Jan 16, 2011
    unclebill

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    well hell there boss
    i'm thinking they would be fine for that restored jeep of yours.
    (and they would last you the rest of your life......)
    you could always have another set of tires for if you ever decide to take it to moab and bash it to pieces on purpose.
     
  3. Jan 16, 2011
    colojeepguy

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    I agree with what Patrick posted-put some modern radials on it. I had an old, worn out GPW that I put radials on (not on purpose, they were just what I had laying around). I was amazed at how much better it drove!
     
  4. Jan 16, 2011
    blevisay

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    Ron
    I think I have seen them here

    450 Red River Road
    Gallatin, TN 37066-3118
    (615) 452-1755
     
  5. Jan 16, 2011
    Rondog

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    What's "them", NDT's? Grip Spurs? Buckshots? NDT's I can get here for cheap. I really want Grip Spurs or Buckshot Mudders, both of which are ghosts from the past. I'm just afraid that if I do find some, finding a matched set of five will be impossible, or they'll be $250+ apiece. Them old Army tires sound better all the time. I don't really think I want radials, this ain't gonna be street driven that much. But, I don't know, never driven a real Jeep before. Last time I drove this one was in the 70's.
     
  6. Jan 17, 2011
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    SIDSCJ

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    Found these from Hercules tire:http://www.herculestire.com/catalogHercules/pdfCatalogPages/HDT-biasLug.pdf IIRC, Denman tire bought the Grip Spur molds, then Hercules bought out Denman when they went belly up. Got this from the guy at the co-op Billy listed:"I am sorry, but we are completely out of all sizes of the Grip Spur tires. I doubt that they will produce any more of these tires again.

    Please let me know if we can help in any other way."
     
  9. Jan 17, 2011
    unclebill

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    i like those.
     
  10. Jan 17, 2011
    Warloch

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    All of those are like the siped grip spur. Talking to the old COOP guy down at the farm (he is in his 80s) he informed me 'there is a reason they stopped making them Grip Spurs - they STINK in the snow'.... Those are the tread patterns he showed me to use instead when I was down last time. He had 6 in his barn - thought they were grip spurs and I was hunting them for Ron.
     
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    Rondog

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    OK, I'm no genius, but I don't see how these could be bad in the snow. Looks like they'd be awesome. Slick pavement, maybe, I could see that.

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    These just get me all excited! The tread depth is incredible.

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    These look like a viable option. I'd definitely get these siped though.

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    dafeeesshh

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    I bet they would suck on snow pack and maybe under two inches of snow. I think once it gets deep they would be great.
     
  13. Jan 17, 2011
    SIDSCJ

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    The Grip Spurs were an incredibly hard compound tire. In snow with little moisture content (the kind that packs down and ices up real quick), they are no better than any other tire. Side lugs dig well, it's the center ribs that don't evacuate wet, slushy snow well at highway speeds. Then you tend to float a bit. In wet or deep snow and slower speeds, they will dig till you hit bedrock. I plowed with a set of the originals for 30+ yrs, ran 'em in mud, clay, snow. They were tough, loud, and old school tech, perfect for my Willys. Alas, they are no more.
     
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    Rondog

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    Can we have a moment of silence please.......
     
  15. Jan 17, 2011
    unclebill

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    the ones the slug is wearing now are great in snow.
    been using them for 2 winters
     
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    unclebill

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    any of the tires in the pics ron showed us i would like.
    and i would get studs installed....
     
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    Rondog

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    My ol' Heep will be a warm weather toy, no studs needed. Probably won't come out in the winter much at all.
     
  19. Jan 17, 2011
    Warloch

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    The issue as I understood it is that when its real cold they were so hard they didn't seem to have much bite and most of the time they would get to the hard layer of snow when it was deep and stop digging. I light snow they were OK for off road as they could get down to the dirt and bite.

    I always thought they looked good to, but looking back, some of the best snow tires I ran were BFG T/As. The lugs cleaned good and the siping gave them good bite on the hard snow pack/ice. I spent many years driving from Boulder to Craig every other weekend... Only missed it once when I25 was closed for an avalanche. God I hate that in the winter now :)
     

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