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making my 5 a 6

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by cj6/442, Jul 8, 2012.

  1. Jul 8, 2012
    cj6/442

    cj6/442 Sponsor

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    ok time to fess up . been sitting on this for a few weeks . after letting Project Hanta go to Dummy after all the work of negotiating the price down to a great deal .Christian GAVE(thank you sir!) me exactly what I wanted the frame and tub (thats all) to his red 6 that he recently parted out .It was not as straight as it once was but I fixed that with a few hrs work .but there is alot of rust showing and it was getting in my way of a clear vision .So,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    Rough day yesterday on the 6 , I started out I was going to separate the 6 section ,,,,,,,looks like a lot of work there are a lot of spot welds ,(I was surprised) ,,,got fed up and decided it’s a trail rig who cares what it looks like ……….so I started cutting out the rusty spots , till I got to the windshield to cowl section that joint is rusted really bad once I broke the paint , so now back to cutting it up again .sdcj6/Mpc and some friends here suggested to pull the whole side off the 6 and separate it at the lower door and the wraparound corner .This is a great idea since those panels are reasonably straight and rust free !!! I would be using MY 5 tub front and back with the 6 sides and floor extension. ......This leaves a lot less body work since I have hd corners to cover the welds and I plan on running steel rockers all the way up to the door opening. Then all the wiring and OBA /OBW/ stuff and stay in my front tub and I don't have to move anything.Body problems done....I HAVE A PLAN .

    Now the next brain problem is the frame , use the 6 frame and box it and add new 7 perches and cut off all my add ons to transfer or cut my 5 frame fix everything /box it and add the 20” to that . then the welded bumpers /F and R suspension/steering/ shock hoops/rear tank are already done .that sounds a lot faster/easier.but unsure of adding to the middle of a frame seams like it would be trouble and asking for potential frame cracks . comments ? pics on the way
     
  2. Jul 8, 2012
    cj6/442

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  3. Jul 8, 2012
    mpc

    mpc Member

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    Sounds like a good plan for the tub. That will save a bunch of time. Tough call on the frame. For me my MB frame is pretty hammered so it didn't make sense to try to stretch it. Take a good look at the CJ6 frame before you decide to use it. Mine had a pretty good twist in it that I didn't notice until later.

    Maybe stretch your frame for now and keep the 6 frame as a back up just in case? You have an onboard welder if you ever had a crack show up while you're on the trail.
     
  4. Jul 8, 2012
    '72CJ5

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    I would say to use the 6 frame. Reason being is because you could do ALL your perches, bumpers and anything else that needs to be added to the frame like your 5 has while it is seperated from the tub. Plus starting with a solid frame (meaning no added center sections) and boxing it sounds like it would be stronger then stretching your 5 frame. Just my thoughts of course and will be looking forward to watching the new sway grow!
     
  5. Jul 8, 2012
    cj6/442

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    yes going to use the 6 frame now and box it
    don't like the weak link of adding to the middle of the frame that has had some major repairs before
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  6. Jul 8, 2012
    '72CJ5

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    Ya, I would have to agree. You using the same suspention that is on your 5 and keep it SU or go SO with them?
     
  7. Jul 9, 2012
    73cj5

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    Have you thought about making a frame from rectangular tubing?
     
  8. Jul 12, 2012
    Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

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    So we'll be seeing this new "6" on the Rubicon Run next Summer, right? Looking forward to this build. Go Kitty!
     
  9. Jul 17, 2012
    cj6/442

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    ok ,if I'm not working tomorrow the 6 tub will be getting sectioned. I need to get cracken if it's to be done by next year .
     
  10. Jul 17, 2012
    piffey263

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    I'm looking forward to this build, :)
     
  11. Jul 18, 2012
    bkd

    bkd Moderator Supreme Staff Member

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    so did you get crackin?.....pics?
     
  12. Jul 18, 2012
    Posimoto

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    He's still looking for his "crackin" dealer. Sometimes crackin' is harder to come by than "a round to it".
     
  13. Jul 18, 2012
    cj6/442

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    oh its crack'n!!!! rear floor off and both rear inner fenders off. going for the floor slice next .

    going to take some time and cleanly save the tool box ,it's the best part of this jeep
     
  14. Jul 18, 2012
    jzeber

    jzeber Well-Known Member 2019 Sponsor

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    Hey Steve,
    So if you are working on the 6 the 5 is still together right?

    How about meeting me at Swamp Lake Fri afternoon 8/3/12????? I have hit pretty much every other trail in the area except Swamp.
    Open to all interested!

    OK back on track, pics needed!!!!
     
  15. Jul 18, 2012
    cj6/442

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    my 5 is still alive ,just getting stuff ready .
    Swamp is the bomb ,I ran it about 10 years ago, off camber, ledges and fun . It can only have gotten worse with all the big tired rigs now .

    it's only about 6/7 hrs for me ,,,,,,,I will have to think about that




    whole frt bulkhead/frt. floor off from the middle of the door opening ,tool box un spot welded (in good condition ) , just need to break the bolts off of the frame .

    there is a ton of rust dust all over the trailer floor .
     
  16. Jul 18, 2012
    cj6/442

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    well ,WHAT HAVE I DONE

    give me 6 hrs and I can section a jeep ,not over cut ,and not bleed . I have cut off skillz.
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  17. Jul 18, 2012
    EricM

    EricM Active Member

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    now you've done it ...
     
  18. Jul 18, 2012
    SIDSCJ

    SIDSCJ Jeep addict

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    Sure.........now put it back together in 3 minutes:toetap:

    Looks like a Jeep puzzle fell out of the box onto your trailer.........chainsawguy
     
  19. Jul 18, 2012
    HeavyIron

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    Just put all those rust flakes into a blender with some bondo to make a nice paste in order to re-assemble
     
  20. Jul 19, 2012
    '74Renegade

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    Your committed now! Can't wait to see the rest as it goes together.
     

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