Fuel gauge help

I have a 56 speedo I'm working on. It's one of the King Seely with no replacement parts any were in the known universe. The temp and fuel gauge can be replaced with a newer set. I can adapt the faceplate so it looks correct. BUt the fuel gauge is backwards. Full is where empty should be and empty is were full should be.

To correct his, is there anyway to change the wireing so the gauge runs backwards? Any way I can change the way it works?

If I have to, I'll just put new gauges, swap the faceplates and and remember empty is full.

 

considering the way the guages are made, I don't think they can be made to work backward. you may want to place an ad in the classifieds to see if someone has a guage they will swap that goes in the right direction. post a pic and I'll see if the ones I have will work for you.

 

Now Howard, that is pure genius.

 

Howard, you bent the sender unit so it floats backwards? Got any picts? Or diagrams or something? I'll be thinking on this.

I wanted to use the newer gauge just like you did. For the same reason - built in voltage regualtor. And I can find them cheap.

But I'm ready to do anyting to get it to work.

Picts here: http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52758

If anyone has a matching gauge, that would be cool.

The number on the fuel gauge faceplate is KS49453n and the number on the temp gauge is KS 49455n. I've tired to cross reference to any other numbers but I can't find anything.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks......

 

Howard, Thanks for the info. I had looked at that one on Ebay but the number on the face is KS46009AN. That is not the same as mine so I assumed it was a different gauge.

Now I just need an external regulator.

 

No seriel number. I picked this up from the jeep junkyard. He had a few of them. THis was the one in the best shape. And when I picked it up I thought it was a S-W unit. It was not until I had it apart I found the gauges said King Seely. But I was going by the location of the temp and fuel, like the silver face one you posted.

From my research, I thought the KS were either 6 volt or 12 volt with an external regulator. The bad fuel gauge had two posts on the back. I can get picts. It also had a date stamped inside the case. I can post up the date later.

The guy also have one, not in as good a shape that had another electrical thing attached to it on a short lead. I assumed it was an external regulated one but I don't know.

That was why I orgionally asked about the newer style gauge with making it run backwards. Plenty of gauges, internal regualtor.

FWIF, I think I figured out the "bend the float backwards" deal. Did you use any heat or anything (small tubing bender?) or just grab it and bend away? I assume it needs to have the same orentation, just reversed, as before.

to bad it does not rotate or something.

 

I checked the date stamped on the back of the speedo gauge and it says "Nov 28 1955" and "49456" under the date. Stamped on the odometer holder casting thingie it says "King Seeley corp" under that "Anne Arbor Mich. 4" and under that "Made in USA"

I found it odd the way "Seeley" was spelled. All I've ever seen, other than on the speedo, is "Seely"

As far as the 6v or 12v issue, I have no idea. I don't even know how to figure it out other than the 2 or 3 terminals on the back of the fuel gauge.

And FWIW, I researched this thread : http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36725&page=2&highlight=speedometer+howard

To figure out what I wanted. Based on this line from that post, "Edit- I just noticed that the temp & fuel guages on your speedo are in the SW positions, the KS is opposite-" (from someone named Howard - hehe) I thought I was getting a SW 12v gauge.

THe jeep mystery deepens. I can take more picts of the different speedo's when I go down.

 

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Be careful Howard. I've heard you can go blind from that.