Does My 67 Cj5 Frame Have Any Modifications?

Picture dump of my frame and stuff. Has the previous owner made modifications to the frame. It looks like the brace in the back is not stock right? What else do you notice. Thanks.

Oh and try to ignore the body lift, that will come off as soon as it gets cold and I don't feel like driving it all the time.

 

Was just looking in the official "what the heck is this thread" and saw someone else's frame with that same brace in the back. Maybe my entire frame is stock?

 

If you're talking about the triangular channel bracing in the back, that is stock. The added plates near the front frame horns and bumper are not stock.

 

looks pretty good to me, just the added plate on the front, and that's not too bad from first blush...

 

The plate above the spring hanger has been added. I did the same to reinforce the frame in that area.

 

looks good to me . except body lift

 

I thought some got that from the factory, with the heavy duty frame option, or Renegade package, or something. If it were a "heavy duty frame option," the Renegades would have gotten it because Jeep threw all the heavy duty options into the Renegade package.

 

Frame looks pretty basic..........with the addition of Saginaw steering up front and what also looks like a 4-Speed in there , transfer case and mount has been lowered and not sure what those hoses are for going up the left side frame rail?..................more pictures!

 

Thanks for the replies, good to know its stock. I knew about the Saginaw but wasn't sure about the plates above the front of the rear springs.

It does have a Sm420 in it which is fantastic. I think I'm close to a 90:1 crawl ratio with the granny low. Wouldn't mind having better syncros than the 420 has tho. Would a SM465 swap in here easily given I already have the 420?

The body lift will be coming off soon, I'm going to have an issue to sort out with my steering shaft hitting the cross member when I take the body lift off. I may also need one more shim in the transfer case cross member to help change the angle of the headers when the body comes down. It's hard to judge at this point if I have enough room above the headers and mufflers. Would love to ditch those headers and run a setup like I saw on the commonsense69 build thread. I haven't been able to find any other manifolds tho.

It's crazy that I've been under it soooo many times, and I can't recall what those two hoses are. I want to say rear diff and t-case vents but it's a little far back in the frame for the t-case vent. I'll check it out tomorrow.

Thanks again for the replies.

 

Nice Jeep, good mods, except for the body lift. BDS Springs perhaps? Frame looks to be in pretty good shape too.

 

The 465 takes a large index bellhousing and a completely different adapter. That and you give up some of the first gear and add 25 lbs more weight. Depending on the adapter, you will also likely have to have the driveshaft lengths modified. In short, if I had something already adapted to the SM 420, it would stay there-syncros be damned.

 

Great info thanks. Given all that I think I'll live with the lengthy shift times. I've had a Mustang that can do a 1/4 mile quicker than I can get into 4th. It probably takes me a 1/4 mile to get into 4th now that I think about it (only slightly kidding).

 

Thanks. It's still too warm here in Cali to park the Jeep for the winter, but as soon as it's too cold to enjoy driving, the body lift comes off. Also planned for winter is to install this wide track D30 I picked up the other day.



I need to go through the whole thing, regear it and maybe an ox locker (not sure on the locker type yet). The guy I bought the axle from threw in a new carrier for the 3.73 and up gears but I probably won't use it.



He also threw in these YJ spring plate adapters and u-bolts but I'm not interested in doing that many mods to make the YJ springs work.



The current springs are Rancho and they are way too stiff. I've seen threads on here where people have removed one of the leafs to help the ride. I would prefer to just purchase better springs unless the remove-a-leaf is viable option that isn't a hack fix.

 

I removed two leaves from my rancho lift. Its still a pretty bad ride, but it helped. My other jeep has worn out stock springs and it rides far better than the lifted one.

 

That wide track is 56" WMS vs your current axle at about 50" WMS........so your front tires will be sticking out about 3" wider per side............The Narrow track D-30 @ 53" WMS fits the early CJ a little better as far as track width Front vs Rear ......................Just something to think about.

 

Tarry thx. Actually, the wider stance is what I'm after, well... that and the disc brakes. Planning on running spacers on the rear to even things out. I know some people hate the spacers and some love them, hoping I'm in the latter category. I figure since the spacers will be just the rear they shouldn't impose extra forces on things likely to wear out quicker like the front would.

To me the stance of this Jeep is a thing of beauty, well more than just the stance, but stance seems like a good place to start.

 

Wow! Two. I feel like I only have three or four.

Just looked, I have this many.




Which ones did you take out? What's the process? What's the downside?

 

Mine have 6 that are held together by the clamps, plus 3 more short leaves on the bottom not held by clamps. I pulled the two shortest ones, and I thought about pulling the third.

The process is pretty simple, just jack up the frame, loosen the u bolts and centering bolt, and pull out the extra leaves.

As far as I know the only downside is potentially losing a little height. These springs are certainly stiff enough that it won't create a handling issue by taking a couple leaves out.

 

Did yours not have the clamps around them like the ones shown in my pics above?

One thing that just dawned on me. I currently have no load on the Jeep. I need a spare tire and carrier, cargo rack, some Jerry cans, tools etc. Most of this weight will be hanging off the back. The ride of the front isn't too bad but the back is awful. I think I'll wait til I get the final weight on there and then see how things are.