CJ6 - rear wheel opening shape

Hello,

As written in my intro I am now allowed to play with a 1975 CJ6.
Looking at body parts, more specific side panels, I recognized there are 2 sorts of. Mostly I see the rear wheel opening round as I know it from the typical CJ's but mine has a flat upper section, so round up-flat-round down.
Just to explain with a link, I have this shape:

http://www.pakwheels.com/forums/att...-spotted-oiiiio-76cj6a_326_pakwheels-com-.jpg
Mine has the Jeep Tags, AMC Decals, Firewall Tag, etc so no clone like e.g. An IKA.

Why's that?
What's the rule of those different body shapes, when, where, which?

 

Domestic production (USA, pre-1976) had the same round-topped wheel openings as the CJ-5. Indeed, the CJ-6 is identical to the CJ-5 in every way except for the extended wheelbase.

The flat top is only export or overseas production. Don't know any details, except it was never seen in the USA.

 

That has been really quick, thank you.
i researched e.g. That IKA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrias_Kaiser_Argentina
had some odd looking design that is somehow that direction.
here you can see exact my body style being built in Toledo.
http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3b/factory/FactoryWorkers.html

 

from what i know are the cj6 with troupe seats the on with the flat top opening, to sit lower.




i can be wrong but with the top you could not sit inside with the troupe seats.

gerald

 

Never seen a CJ-6 with troop seats in the USA. Possible the US safety regulations don't allow them. Could be an export-only feature.

 

Well, this blue one also has kind of side cushions/seats.
http://www.earlycj5.net/forums/showthread.php?102530-CJ6-Value-Question

would be interesting to measure the upper edge of the body panel to the wheel housing(?) if there is a difference from yours Tim to Gerald's. from Gerald's pictures I think I see that the lower line from the trooper seats is on height with the welded in (?) flat section in the rear wheels.

 

I have a set of those wheelhouse cushions too. Not the same as the troop seats that Gerald shows. The cushions are an aftermarket product, only padding with no back rest and only as long as the regular CJ-5 wheelhouse. Also available with notches to go around your roll bar (CJ-5 only).

The wheelhouse cushions are kind of pointless with a top on, because you can only sit on them hunched over - there's not enough room under the top for an adult to sit erect on them. The troop seats may be better in this respect - though Gerald says you can't sit upright with them either. Look at the conventional CJ-5 back seat - when seated, your butt is at least a half-foot below the top of the wheelhouse. An average height adult can sit upright in the conventional back seat, and it's comfortable. I have ridden long distances on the regular seat. I would say the troop seats, or the wheelhouse cushions, are only for short trips.

 

no, here you see my wife sitting on the rear seats, sorry older pics. but you see - space enough.
...and roomy also!







gerald

 

Ok. Been today at the Place the CJ6 is stored. Unfortunately my CJ5 is somewhere else, so I couldn't compare.
I think I can confirm Gerald's thesis about the troop seats, makes sense. If not the troop seats lets at least deal with facts.

The distance of the inner wheel well (IWW) to the upper edge of the tub is 14cm, equals 5.5inches that should be more than the usual measurement of an CJ.
Furter the inner wheel well at least on my tub is absolute square. This triangle section on the 'typical' IWW is missing completely.
Further the flat section of the rear wheel panel section is more or less equal with the upper panel of the wheel well. It's roughly 0.75 inches to the bottom side of the inner wheel well.
That leads to that I can't use the typical repair panels for an CJ5 (do not know for any of the CJ6) since it interferes with the inner wheel well (too low because of flat section - because of lowered inner wheel well).

I hope you get what the artist wants to express....

 

On my CJ-6 (export model) they changed and lowered the rear seats (as Gerald said). Its easy to notice that when you inspect the shape of the metal in the lowered seats.

 

Ziv, if you talk about seats, you are talking about the Gerald style troop benches or the typical CJ rear bench?
Sorry, didn't get this one.

Also, I saw the one white-ish almost wrecked one you bout in 2007 and your buddy turned into the 'jeep of the month'. Can't see the video here, but has he changed to the round rear wheel section while it seems you bought it with the flat section?

 

ziv`s cj6 is exakt same as minefb

gerald

 

Haven't seen pics of Ziv's CJ6 except that old rig he gave a frien and has now round cut outs.
Neverthelss, I think we solved the mystery of the flat section.

Yours has no indentions (aussparungen) on the rear panels as mine. Why's that?
in the picture under the UE of rescue.
http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3b/Photos/Tech/Steps/SaltaireCJ6Step.jpg

 

i think this is something only ealy models have....

gerald

 

Those are for brackets for the military top bows - from the M38A1. My CJ-6 has them, but I recall they are gone from 1976 on.

 

Thanks a lot Tim.

 

One is 1978 CJ-6 which is export model
the other is 1975 CJ-6.
If you want pictures of some details, let me know.
You can pm me.
Ziv

 

Thank you. Good to know you are out there.
Let me see (after a new toy joined our household) how I am going forward with this project.

 

Mine is a genuine UK export model and it has the standard curved rear wheel arches oh and its a 75

 

Are you the the gentleman that documented his build on birtydastards in every detail?