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1970 Cj-5, Also Known As The Vamp

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by masscj2a, May 15, 2020.

  1. May 15, 2020
    masscj2a

    masscj2a Member 2020 Sponsor 2019 Sponsor

    Chester Mass
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    Yes, name says it best. I'm calling it the Vamp, cuz its sucking the money out of me. Maybe not because I had to, but because I have a problem. This one started out life as a Virginia CJ, then last year, I went down there to rescue it from a farmers barn. The sheet metal was very solid, but when I got down there, the running motor, was not running and of course the price point began to drop. After price adjustment, it was loaded up and on its way home to western Mass.
    Came with: Dauntless that appears to have just been rebuilt. T14 that grumbles, Dana 18 TC, offset rear 44 flanged, Dana 27 front with lock o matics, both 488's, hard top, nice welded exhaust, dry rotted seats that I plan to get new covers on, plastic fuel tank. Jeep still has a lot of original items on it, like rear view mirror, gas pedal, sun visors, washer fluid bag, original uncut dash, seat brackets, windshield frame (rust free).

    Since then the following has been done and with a lot of the items bought here.

    New distributor (hence not running)
    Rancho leaf springs, (2-1/2 inch) bought new 4WDH military wrapped, rebound spring removed
    Rancho shocks, bought new 4WDH, 3 inch longer then stock
    New shackles (3/4 inch higher)
    Best Top super top, bought here used
    NOS Dana 27 Power-lok, bought here
    Dana Power-lok rear LSD bought here
    New brake lines with complete flush of fluid
    All new axle and carrier and hub bearings, seals and gear oil. This took the longest and just finally got it done.
    New rebuilt pristine Warn hubs
    New rebuilt steering linkage, bell crank, TRE's (next is cross over steering)
    Knuckles now have button head conversion
    New Walmart battery, fit my tray and hold down perfect, I know, Walmart battery right
    Used Warn XD9000I winch, fabricated winch tray, through bumper exit
    Aircraft landing lights
    Stainless Radiator grill protector (used East Coast Willys) web site
    Front vintage pull hooks
    New Crown clutch cable
    Best Top seats (used East Coast Willys)
    Swing tire carrier, bought here
    New running and directional lights, ( all of them) bought new Kaiser Willys (Crown)
    New back up lights
    New fabricated rear bump stops on frame
    New BFG KM3's Mud Terrains on vintage 3 bump 15 inch wheels. 4WDH great price, $187 each
    4 new 1-1/4 inch wheel spacers, with no tire rubbing on front springs (Ebay)

    I'm sure I'm missing things here and there, but didn't want to bore anyone with the time lapsed version of the build. So its pretty much done and now with the situation in the world what it is, I can't get an appointment at the registry of Motor Vehicles in Mass. to get it registered. Been trying for two weeks now. This state is a joke. The registry offices are closed except by appointment only and for two weeks I can't get one even into July. I have my form RMV1 from my insurance agent and my old plates, but can't get in to hand them over close to a grand to get it on the road. May have to register this one in NH.

    The synopsis on this 1970 CJ5 is, it runs great, starts at a click of the key, goes down the road straight as an arrow with no wobble at speeds of over 60 MPH, ( don't ask ) had tons of torque, comfy to ride in, room for man muscle, shifts great, steers like butter, (even with 33's) The cool parts, the 4 way flasher works and lights up, the directional switch is original and functions with a flashing light bulb, ( I know, its the small things that excite me) Speedometer works and temp gauge, Fuel gauge, not so much as poly tank has no sending unit yet.

    The cons, needs a new T14 rebuild or T15 if I can find one and convert it
    Need to get the DOM tubing to do a cross over steering system
    Needs TR flip with new Cross over
    Probably a TC rebuild, but not this summer. I have a spare T14 tranny and TC for it from my 71, may rebuild it this summer, but not going to install till next winter.
    May buy steel fuel tank and sending unit (up in the air on this)

    So that's it. Been busy and didn't want to bore anyone with this build. I'll try to find pictures, but did not take a ton.

    cj5 may 14th.jpg May 14th cj5.jpg May 14th side shot cj.jpg
     
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  2. May 16, 2020
    fhoehle

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    Wow, I hate the bureaucracy of PA, sounds like Mass. Is even worse. I hope you can register it soon. Do you have a vin tag that you can swap out.......
     
  3. May 16, 2020
    masscj2a

    masscj2a Member 2020 Sponsor 2019 Sponsor

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    No, nothing else is registered right now. My daughter in law lives out near Pittsburg. I hear those horror stories all the time. Can't wait to finalize my retirement and get out of the people's republic.
     
  4. May 16, 2020
    givemethewillys

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    That looks like a great jeep, congrats on the purchase! I gotta admit, I'm a bit jealous, as my jeep is in pieces right now. Mass really is terrible with their beurocracy. NH at least used to be surprisingly much better.

    Here in Virginia I've been trying to get a dmv inspector to come out and verify that my vin is different than the title shows (couldn't find the vin plate way back when I first registered it in nh, and used the now-gone fhead serial number). They are showing as "closed until further notice". Grrrrr.
     
  5. May 16, 2020
    Dave Deyton

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    Fuquay-Varina, NC
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    I understand people are trying to pawn off junk as collector cars and title scams are prevalent, but to get a legit Jeep registered is crazy.
    The thieves probably have a way around the problems honest people run into.
    Bought the M38A1 from Virginia and brought it back to NC. Took forever to get the title transferred. Had an AACA meeting and a guy from the DMV did the program.
    After trying to get it inspected with out success, I called him and he had someone come out and inspect it. They said we had to drive it up there, i said. "I'm not putting any money or work into it until I get a clear title." Finally, with his help, I got the title. Now if I can just get it running.

    I tried to get information before I bought it and got a lot of wrong information. The people at the DMV told me to wait and sign the title with the inspectors witnessing it.
    They said they could arrest me for having an open title and I should have already signed it. They said there are only 2 DMV offices in NC with all State employees and to use one of them for getting the title with the paperwork they gave me. From there on it went without problem.

    That is a good looking Jeep. I like a 70 model, you have done some good work.

    Hang in there. If you can talk to the right person, maybe you can make some progress.

    Dave
     
  6. May 16, 2020
    masscj2a

    masscj2a Member 2020 Sponsor 2019 Sponsor

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    Dave, one of the problems is they aren't answering phone either because there are thousands trying to do what I am. So simple answer for them is don't answer the phone. When this breaks, they will be flooded. Makes no sense, I can go to Walmart with no problems. But I can't go to a business I pay gobbs of taxes to go to and can't. Hate this state.
     
  7. May 19, 2020
    jpflat2a

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    Jeep looks good.
    I like the color.
     
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  8. May 21, 2020
    masscj2a

    masscj2a Member 2020 Sponsor 2019 Sponsor

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    Finally got an appointment at the registry. June 1st at 1010 am. Only allowing 10 minutes for each transaction. I figured out a couple of years ago that I was paying over 25k a year in taxes to just live in this state and it gets you 10 minutes of time ?? Wow . And that's not counting federal tax. Thank goodness, I'm so lucky to be so generous.
     
  9. May 23, 2020
    sterlclan

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    thats one of the reasons i love it here...the town hall handles registrations. the dmv is only needed for your license.
     
  10. May 24, 2020
    masscj2a

    masscj2a Member 2020 Sponsor 2019 Sponsor

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    Yeh I love Maine and New Hampshire. Where I spend my winters.
     

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