1967 CJ5 V6 225 starter wiring help needed

Hello all, this is my first post on here. I have tried searching, but no avail. I am working on my dad's 1967 CJ5 v6 225 and I am Having trouble with the starter wiring. I have a few manuals and have studied them with little help. The diagrams are unclear to me.

I have a red wire, green wire, and a purple wire going to the starter. Where does each wire go on the starter? The starter was lost and I have replaced it with one from the auto part store.

Please help, I am Toyota guy trying to help my dad get his Jeep back on the road after being parked for 5 years.

 

look here.
http://oljeep.com/gw/74_tsm/3-Electrical(3-1to3-40).pdf

The diagrams are like a street map. you need to follow them. If you trace the wires you will see where the electricity goes when the switch is closed or open. You may find it easier to make it work if you use the same switch that you replaced.

 

Take a look at this thread: My 67 CJ5 build | Page 15 | EarlyCJ5.com. Look about halfway down the page. It should answer your question.

 

Thanks for the help Uncle Vin!

I'm also intrigued by this ignition switch. It has a left, center, and right position. I would assume left=off position, center=accessory position, and right=run position. It's not a typical ignition switch that has a cranking position that returns to the run position when the engine is started.

When I crank the engine over the armature is staying engaged to the flywheel and solenoid has 13 volts.

 

Post a photo of the back of the switch. Maybe a member can assist.

 

It seems the switch you have is for a push button or floor mounted start button. You probably have the starter wired correctly, the switch could be leading you down the wrong path. Good luck.

 

So currently on the ignition switch; the left position does nothing, the center position does nothing, the right position cranks, fires, and runs. But, the armature is staying engaged to the flywheel. I've shimmed the starter and have checked my tolerance to ensure it's not engaging too far or too deep into the flywheel. No grinding noises either.

I'm not scared of wiring. I'm just confused by this style ignition switch. It's new to me.

On the ignition switch there is one terminal that has nothing connected to it. (Photo #1)
Then there is a terminal that has a wire just hanging from it. (Photo #2)

 

Didn't know that was a floor mounted starter switch! I thought it was a floor mounted high beam switched like my dad's old suburban! I guess I have some more reading to do.
I'm only 24, so a lot of this has been a learning process for me. So any information is helpful.


I just checked and followed some wires, it is in fact a floor mounted headlight dimmer switch. Back to the chalkboard.

 

That is correct Glenn. There is no far right that springs back to right position. Turning to right position causes the engine to just crank. I believe this to be the original ignition switch, but I could be wrong. I will see if the auto part store has an ignition switch.

My dad did make a new dash right before he parked the jeep. He says that he labeled with them and ensured that they were plugged in correctly, but it hasn't been started since then due to a clutch that had failed.

 

looks just like the switch in the boys 70 and my 74 where is the key able to come out? left acc next off and removable one right run far right start.try a little wd 40 or the like in the cylinder to free it up if it is sticky. red wire to battery cable at starter,purple to start side of solenoid,green may go to ignition side of solenoid

 

green to ign terminal red to large post with battery purple to start terminal. looks like the same switch as the boys 70 and my 74 try a little wd 40 or the like to free up the sticky switch.

 

As Glenn and sterlclan have pointed out, you're not working with a stock 1967 set-up.

If you want to continue with the '70 era switch--additional helpful info. can be found here: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/ignition-switch-diagram-1441717/

On the link-- drop to the last photo entry. Hope it is correct for you.- P.S. the attached files below is my 1967 switch.

 

It could be the correct switch, but the internal return spring is broken.

 

So I put some lithium grease in the switch and have freed up the return spring on it. So the switch is now going from far right position, springing back to right position.

But now I've got the volt meter hooked up to the purple wire (currently disconnected from the jeep so it doesn't turn over the starter) in the far right position I am getting 12 volts, then when it springs back to right position, it still has 12 volts. Looks like there must be a mixed up wire on the ignition switch.

Anybody have any pictures of the back of their switch? Or a better diagram for the switch?
Just saw Dave's link, I'll start there.

 

Ok, I have sorted out the starter issue. But now when I turn the key to the center position (off), the speedometer lights, oil pressure light, and voltage light stay on. Getting closer! Once I get everything sorted out, and working properly, I'll draw a diagram the best I can and post it. Just incase it can help somebody else down the road.

Taking a little break from the electrical right now. Waldron exhaust just showed up!

Thanks for all of the help so far everybody.

 

I got the Waldron exhaust installed and worked my way back to the wiring issues. With a clear mind and fresh eyes, I found my mistake in my wiring connections.

Here are some pictures of the notes I took and some of the information I gathered from using the multimeter. Keep in mind that this is a 67' CJ5 with a 225. The harness has been tampered before, so some of these wires may not be factory OEM colors. Just in case somebody is using this is a reference one day.

The last photo is what I refer to as the "terminal block" in my notes.