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1965 Cj5 Tuxedo Park

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by 65seejayfive, May 19, 2019.

  1. Jun 17, 2019
    Keys5a

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    Your Tux was built in December 1964, so it is, in fact, a 1965 model. I have a Sierra Blue Tux 19 units before yours. I think I remember seeing a strip of Sierra Blue that was under your Tux hood badges. The early ('64 &'65) 4cyl/column shift Tuxedo Parks only came in 4 colors, President Red, White Cap, Sierra Blue, and Sylvan Green. I wonder if there were batches built all the same color as they went down the assembly line?
    -Donny
     
  2. Jun 17, 2019
    65seejayfive

    65seejayfive Blazin’ new trails

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    Yes my original color was Sierra Blue. It was only repainted once before me to the dark blue, which rubbed off in plenty of spots to show the original color. That would be neat if yours and mine were built around the same time in the same “batch”, it would be interesting to see how the factory handled that process.
     
  3. Jun 17, 2019
    FinoCJ

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    I really like cj7s (and 8s - used to have an 84cj7), and as I build my cj5 more and more into a wheeler, I sometimes wonder if I would have been better off buying a later model cj7. But in this case, your ecj5 is way cooler. like the FF too.
     
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  4. Jun 17, 2019
    Lockman

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    I always thought they came out with the CJ7 solely for the Automatic to fit ? Guess I was 'solely' wrong again ! :oops:
     
  5. Jun 17, 2019
    65seejayfive

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    I’m not sure, I’m sure there’s many reasons but I’m sure a longer wheelbase for more cabin space and widetrack axles had something to do with it (y)
     
  6. Jun 17, 2019
    65seejayfive

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    What was cool about the CJ7 at this show was it was a year older but identical to the one my dad bought brand new in ‘84 (color and all). He thought that was pretty cool, wish he still had that Jeep! I like CJ7s too and they have a lot more going for them than early 5s. I’m sure this can be argued but the truth is that they really are more civilized. But to me, it reminds me too much of the Wrangler. Not that that’s always a bad thing, I like TJs! But it seems as if it was just the stepping stone to the YJ, which, I’d LOVE to know what was going on internally at Jeep HQ when that thing was born :rolleyes:
     
  7. Jun 22, 2019
    65seejayfive

    65seejayfive Blazin’ new trails

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    I have my new suspension coming on Tuesday (finally!). I ordered a Rough Country 2.5” kit (#60030) awhile back after seeing others lifted Jeeps. Roy (Beach66Bum) doesn’t know it but he’s to blame; I have been scrutinizing and looking at how his Jeep sits with his BDS kit and I really like the look. :beer: Thanks a lot, Roy!

    Now, I know RC is not BDS, but it’s all my budget allowed since the BDS kit was a good bit more. I’ve had other RC products on my other Jeeps and I liked them then, we’ll see how I like them now!

    2.5in Jeep Suspension Lift Kit

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    But in the meantime ‘til it gets here, here’s some pics from a little trail time today. Nothing wild and crazy just getting it in the woods and off the blacktop for awhile.

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    Found this huggeeee rock to really stuff a tire on :lol:

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  8. Jun 22, 2019
    Beach66Bum

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    Who me.... lol! Awesome! And Beautiful pictures!!
    Cheers!
     
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  9. Jun 23, 2019
    65seejayfive

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    Yes YOU! :lol: I really like how your Jeep sits. My springs are all original (except the really bad one I did change out) so I’m sure they are tired. I’m not only excited to see how it sits lifted but to see/feel how it will ride and drive with all new bushings and springs. I’m sure my old pivot eye bushings and bolts are shot. There will be a lot of grinding and sawzall work to get them out!
     
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  10. Jun 23, 2019
    Lockman

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    Thats the way .... Sawzall and an air chisel hammer ! Did mine on my my 18 year old Cherokee XJ. That the does not kill us, makes us stronger ?
    :bananatool:( Thought I might die doing that job, particularly 'cuz it was 15 degrees out & snowing. )
    You'll be fine though.... It's summer !

    Addendum :
    .... The XJ has 2 1/2 " wide springs, with the front 4 " X 1/2 " shackle bolt going into a trapped screw boss inside of the frame. Our CJ's are 1 3/4" wide with exposed nuts & bolts. Much, much, easier change out. Ask me how I Know ! :banghead:
     
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  11. Jun 23, 2019
    65seejayfive

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    I may go to Harbor Freight and pick up an air chisel, they just opened one up 20 mins from me so I should really go see the new store, right?? :D I work in the elements most every day year round. It’s amazing how much faster and productive you can be in warmer weather than in the cold! Fingers don’t bend as easily it seems in sub-freezing temps! Running and bending conduit stinks when everything you touch is metal and FREEZING cold!
     
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  12. Jun 23, 2019
    Beach66Bum

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    It sure is exciting! Job goes quick once the old suspension is removed. It’s so cool seeing a shiny new suspension kit under the Jeep. I remember staring at it for a while, haha! A bonus was no more “Jeep Lean”
    You’ll love the new feel! New tires, new suspension.....yew!! :D:beer:(y)
     
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  13. Jun 25, 2019
    65seejayfive

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    Woo hoo! Let the fun begin!!:bananatool:
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  14. Jun 26, 2019
    Beach66Bum

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    Ya!! (y):beer::sneak:
     
  15. Jun 26, 2019
    65seejayfive

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    So I almost got the back suspension together tonight. Some of the old pivot eye bushings fought me a bit but my drill and new $12 HF air chisel made it so much easier! I would be done but Rough Country messed up a bit. I talked to their customer service and they are making it right and sending me new u bolts but the u bolts they sent are too short. They don’t even make it through the spring plate. :steamed: Yes they are the right ones for the rear and yes I’ve triple checked everything. They are just too short. :shrug:

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    But the springs are in and axle set down. Just waiting on u-bolts then I’ll button it all up and put on the shocks. Then the rear is done, moving to the front.
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  16. Jun 27, 2019
    Lockman

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    Look'n good . I am always amazed at how a specialty supplier can mess up a measurement issue on an individual order ? Could be lack of training , I don't know ? It's just down right disappointing. :banghead: Anyway , you made good time , Brother .
    Can I suggest that you put some Never-seize or some type of assembly lube on all the nuts & bolts as you put it back together.
    And , better yet... After you do that , spray all of your work with Fluid- Film . Check it out , I'm glad I did . Stericlan schooled me a while ago on Fluid- Film & the stuff is amazing on our old Jeeps. :cool:
    P.S. Maybey it's just how I was taught , But your gear looks awful ' DRY '. It will thank you for it ! (y)
     
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  17. Jun 27, 2019
    Fly Navy

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    I had the exact same issue with my Rough Country suspension kit.
     
  18. Jun 27, 2019
    65seejayfive

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    Did they send you longer u-bolts? They are sending me longer bolts but the customer service rep sounded so shocked, almost like I was making it up?? “Those part numbers go with that kit, I’m confused?” I told him I’d gladly send him a picture if he didn’t believe me. He said we’ll ship them right out. Whatever, if they work it’s just a little hiccup and they are working at correcting it (y)
     
  19. Jun 27, 2019
    65seejayfive

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    I know, it kinda knocks the wind out of your sails when you get such momentum going then realize you can’t finish it because of the wrong parts :banghead: My whole frame is solid, straight, no cracks but very dry and rusty. I plan on cleaning it up a bit then shooting it with some black paint, nothing fancy. All the hardware is getting never seize and lubed up with plenty of grease (y)
     
  20. Jun 27, 2019
    Fly Navy

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    I never contacted them... given that it had been 2 years or so since I purchased the kit.:whistle: So I just went online and ordered some longer bolts. I'm sure the issue is the axle tubes. Dana 44 axle tube diameters range from 2.5" to 3". Given that most of these suspension kits fit such a broad range of model years, I think they save a dime and just throw in the u-bolts for the smaller diameter rear axles.
     
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