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1957 CJ6 + 2000 TJ = ? (Building a CJ6)

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by don87401, Nov 24, 2013.

  1. Nov 24, 2013
    don87401

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    I have been working on a 1957 CJ 6 for about 18 months. I will begin to build a Thread on the build.

    Here is the strory. I bought a 1957 CJ 6 which the internet shows was made in 56 but it is titled as a 57. I have had it in storage for about 10 years and when I retired I drug it out of stroage and proceed on the build.

    I bought a wrecked 2000 TJ for a donor for a new frame, stretched the TJ frame to 101 1/2 in wheel base, Added a late 80's GM 4.3 V6, 700r4, 2.77 klune V, and a 4.3 Atlas, 3.5 Rockrawler lift, Built up Rubi D44 front axle with ARB, 4.56 gears, locking hubs, Explore 8.8 with ARB, 4.56 Gears, alloy axles. Both with 5X5.5 bolt pattern, add a set of bead lock wheels that I had kept for a CJ 5 I sold plus a set of 35x12.50-15 roller to use for the build.

    I took CJ 6 a part and kept what wanted and sold most of the old parts here (Thanks to the people who bought them). Then proceeded to do new floor boards and the normal rust repair spots on the CJ6 body. Next step was to mate the body to the new highly modified TJ fram. (More on that process later)

    Don
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  2. Nov 24, 2013
    tarry99

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    Nice Project...............I also have an early CJ-6 and just the other day was looking at some later coil Jeep chassis in the bone yard...........what other site have you posted your build on?......... be interested in looking.
     
  3. Nov 24, 2013
    don87401

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    Deleted as I have a new link for pictures posted below.
     
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  4. Nov 24, 2013
    don87401

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    Deleted as I have new link for picture posted below.
     
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  5. Nov 24, 2013
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    Sweet......keep filling in the details and pics! !

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  6. Nov 24, 2013
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    I joined that site...........and only a few pictures came up and the rest will not load............., when I looked at the later chassis a while back it was obviously wider in both the front and rear and was curious how or what you did in order to get the body mounted? The rear of the early CJ-6 around the wheel tubs and rear body is so narrow.........just curious how it all fit?
    What axles did you use?
    and drivers side or passenger side drop?
    If you have an album off site send me a PM with a link.................Thanks
     
  7. Nov 25, 2013
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    You might just go in to the site and to the album from there the link may not work right. It does the same thing to me.

    I have made a new album on a regular picture storage site and posted the link below for 151 pictures so far.
     
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  8. Nov 25, 2013
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    Actuallyl it fits pretty much the same The wheel wells fit inside the frame in the rear. I had to use the 72 and newer fenders and hood. It apears that the location the TJ fire wall is the same distance from the radiator mount as the newer CJs. I set the motor in ther frame as the AA kit said and when I set the body on the frame after the streach it cleard the motor and lined up the the rear. (it was close I could have streach the frame another half inch) When I really got to mouting the body down to the torque tubes (see below) I let the body hang over the rear crossmember by 1/2".





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    But this is how I did it. I replaced the floor boards with Classic Enterprise's replacement. I also bought the TJ "torque tubes". These are the "rails" under the TJ that are attached to the bottom of a TJ tub that the body mounts bolt to. Classic sells both a whole one for a TJ and a partcial one. I bought one of each for each side. I reworked these so where they mount to the TJ body so the flange to weld them on would flat from end to end. The underside of the CJ6 at the floor boards is flat so having the torque tubes flat they could mate. Because of where it I streached the TJ frame I had to extend the torque tube to reach the 3rd body mount to the rear, that why I bought both torque tube pieces from Classic.

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    On the CJ 6 body I had to build a plate to fill in the voids on the very front part underneath the body where the floor boards angle up to the fire wall to make that area flat with floor board because the torque tubes extend that far foward to the first set of body mounts on the TJ frame.

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    At the 3rd body mound I had to build a support spacer from the body floor up to the torque tube for extra support as it 3rd body mount bolts here.

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    So with the torque tubes modified and the CJ 6 bottom now having completey flat areas to mount the torque tubes I set the body on the frame and figured out if I need stock height TJ mounts or 1" body lift TJ mounts. In my case to clear the trany/klunev/atlas combo I need the one inch at the 3 center body mount locations, a standard with a small spacer for the radiator mount and standard for the two rearward mounts. I had to make a brackets on the bottom of CJ 6 tub for the mounts that are over the rear axle because mounts there are not any thing like what was there orginally. I had to change and relocate the ones on the CJ 6 body to match up to the TJ frame at the rear cross member. After getting all this figured out and the CJ6 body centered and alined to where I wanted. I drilled four holes throgh the torque tube flanges and the floor boards and bolt them together to keep the position and put on the fenders and grill to see if they would work.

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    I found the orginal short fenders/gill would not work and I had scrounged up some 72 and newer fenders and tried them with a newer style CJ grill and they all fit. (the newer CJ grill has to be modified to clear the TJ Steering box another story)

    Don
     
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  9. Nov 26, 2013
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    Don, Yep that'a allot better..............Thanks
     
  11. Nov 29, 2013
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    Here are selected pictures of the frame work.

    The frame is a 2000TJ. There is no real reason for picking this frame, just a straight one I could find in the Junk yard. After stripping off the all "extra" stuff I began.

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    Being that the CJ 6 has a wheel base of 101 1/2 and TJ is not, I needed to stretch the frame 8.5 inches

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  12. Dec 23, 2013
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    Got some new parts to play with
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    These are Genright Stertched LJ rocker Guards. Bought these because they were longer than the CJ 6 rocker panel figured I could trim them down to length.

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    First fit, need to trim front around raised fender edge and cut off about 4 inches at the rear fender opening.

    Put the door on
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    and the rocker interfers with the door closing against the body

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    Need to trim a bit

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    Doors now close against body.

    I haven't drilled and bolted the gurads yet as have to fit the Qarter Panel Gurads (Next post) once everything clamps up right then I will begin drilling and bolting.
     
  13. Dec 23, 2013
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    Nicely done.........looking great

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  14. Dec 23, 2013
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    More parts to play with.
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    These are Genright CJ8 blank quarter panels. I bought these after measuring my Scrambler and figuring out they would be big enough to cover most of the CJ6 side up to the door opening.

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    I had to trim the edge at the tail gate opening before I could clamp the panel up.
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    This is how far foward the uncut panel extends down the side.

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    After find out I had to trim the rocker panel for the door, I also will have trim the panel for the door as well. I put the top and doors on started fitting the panels

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    This is the Driver side. The panel stop at the edge of the door, and sits down flush aganist the rocker panel.

    And the passenger side.
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    Still have some cleanup grinding to do, mark the tail light hole and gas filler holes, cut/drill them and check final fit before drilling and bolt up. Then I plan on putting the tires back on and if the weather is good rolling out side for some full view pictures before taking it all apart agian to finish the body work and continuing on the mechanical stuff. I just wanted to make sure everything was to going together before doing any finish work on the body.

    These are selected pictures there are more in the album which the link has been posted before.
     
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  15. Dec 23, 2013
    tarry99

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    Looks Good!
     
  16. Dec 24, 2013
    Im a doughball

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    Awesome, keep it coming!
     
  17. Dec 24, 2013
    wuze

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    that is cool, realy cool

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  18. Dec 24, 2013
    don87401

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    I might add that I set the panel high enough over the bottom edge of the top so when the bolts go in they will hold the top on as well as the panels.
     
  19. Dec 24, 2013
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    Cool project.

    And nice work.
     
  20. Dec 30, 2013
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    I said I would roll the CJ 6 out of the shop for pictures Here they are.

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    Now it is time to take it all apart again and finish the body work, and continue on all the things that make to go forward, backward, stop and turn.

    And here are a couple better pictures of the underside of the PS rocker guard and how it fit around the torque tube.

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