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64 Radiator Interchange??

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by tcfeet, Mar 20, 2011.

  1. Mar 20, 2011
    tcfeet

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    My 64 cj5-f134 radiator has about did its do, and I'm needing
    to replace it. Has anyone used a radiator from another vehicle
    that can be adapted to the jeep with a little work?
    If so, what are the modifications? I hate to fork over
    500+ for a radiator for a this old money pit..
     
  2. Mar 20, 2011
    timgr

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    What engine do you have now, a F134?

    I recall people using Mustang or Fiero radiators. But those are for V6 conversions.

    I suggest you take a couple good pics of your radiator and print them out. Then make measurements and write them on the printouts. Or make a drawing ... you get the idea.

    Take your notes and a a tape to the pick-your-part and start looking under hoods. Almost any car radiator out there will have enough capacity to cool a F134. You'll need to look at the overall size (that it will fit in the space available) and that the outlets come out in more-or-less the right locations. Look under your hood and see where there is room to move the outlets around some, and where moving the outlets will interfere with the engine or body/frame/whatever. You can use flex hoses to make different outlet locations work, as long as there is no interference and the angles are not too severe.
     
  3. Mar 20, 2011
    dcwoolner

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    I have a radiator I took out of a 64 cj5 I bought for parts. The radiator measures 16.75" x 21.5" plus the mounting flanges. It appears to be in fairly good shape. Will send pics if interested. I'm guessing that I'd have to have $75.00 plus shipping.

    Regards

    Dave Woolner
    Glenwood Springs, Colorado
     
  4. Mar 20, 2011
    nickmil

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    Please pm your sale to the op or put an ad in the classifieds. Ads are not allowed in tech as per forum rules
    Posted via Mobile Device
     
  5. Mar 21, 2011
    SIDSCJ

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    w3srl

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    :shock: That's a STEAL!
     
  7. Mar 21, 2011
    SIDSCJ

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    For a bolt in and hose swap you can't go wrong. The one I got was made in Canada. No way would I give 4+ Benjamins for an Omix one..................
     
  8. Mar 21, 2011
    Texis

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    $127 is a great deal, is it 2 row or 3 row?
    Did it bolt directly into the CJ, or did you have to "make it work"?
     
  9. Mar 21, 2011
    SIDSCJ

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    You have to space it out a bit from the grille, as this one is a flush mount. Need to make new mounting holes in the rad flange as it doesn't line up with the existing holes in the grille. If you mate the top holes up it sits too low and sits on the front crossmember. Hose is offset as stated. Took me an hour vs a straight bolt in. My time is worth way less than the $4-500 or more as seen here:http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/details/QQJeepQQWillysQQOmixQQRadiatorQQ19551958QQO321710104.html I'll have to look but I think it's a 2 row. Looks like this:[​IMG]
     
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  10. Mar 21, 2011
    tcfeet

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    Thanks for the picture.. Auto Zone has them listed, but when you
    order, they said the vender was out of stock..
    I did find one for a dj in Dallas, Tx and have it headed this way.
    It was 228.00 with tax & shipping. Still much better than 5 skins.
    You got a steal on yours ..
     
  11. Mar 21, 2011
    Jim302

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    Ooof, I just forked over $465 to get mine re-cored. What happened to getting a radiator re-cored for $100?
     
  12. Mar 24, 2011
    Texis

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    The EPA happened.
     
  13. Mar 24, 2011
    timgr

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    Stricter pollution regs are part of it. I wonder how the regs have affected the ability to solder, ie using lead-tin solder.

    But IMO most of the expense for custom work comes from a vast paradigm shift in the radiator industry. If you want a replacement radiator now for most applications, you can buy a new radiator for less (inflation adjusted) than you could have ever had a radiator re-cored in the past. Radiators are now made cheaply in factories, primarily in Mexico I believe. Somehow these factories are able to make and stock radiators in relatively small batches for lots of applications, cheaply and profitably. Something has changed (technically? labor costs?) to make this small-batch manufacturing profitable.

    Also the cost of materials (copper in particular) has gone up so much that businesses that don't have the scale to hedge are pretty much at the mercy of high materials prices.

    This has mostly put the traditional "radiator shop" out of business. The few that remain are either just fronts for a R&R business using the commodity radiators, or specialize in custom jobs ... at a premium price.
     
  14. Mar 24, 2011
    SIDSCJ

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    :iagree
    The only shop close to me is over an hour away. He's known for his quality work, is a one man show. Works out of his home in a residential area. He's been there so long his use is grandfathered in to the zoning regs, but when he's gone they'll never be a shop there again. He quoted me a min of $100 just to look at it, flush and solder one hole. Could recore it if needed, but I opted for the new one for less $$. Still have the take-out, will fix it when I get around to it to have a decent spare.
     
  15. Mar 24, 2011
    timgr

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    I needed a radiator for the CJ-6, and just bought one from RockAuto. I did not consider repairing my take-out (it was in rough shape anyway, with big fan-blade marks).

    The J10 needed a radiator about eight-ten years ago, and I looked for a new radiator online. Unfortunately, six-banger J-trucks aren't plentiful, and only the standard cooling 2-row was available new. The original radiator was 3-row. I went to a shop in Lexington near here (Carrolls) and they recored it with a 4-row core. The box that the core came in said "Utility truck" and they asked me if it was for a Utility truck when I picked up the radiator. Total charge was between $250-300, which I thought was expensive at the time ... but a recore even then was no less expensive than a new radiator.
     
  16. Mar 24, 2011
    sieg

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    hey guys thanks for the tip on the radiator got one on the way at $144 shipped. thats better than having the original repaired and give out at the wrong time. i'll let you know how it turns out
     
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