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Tons of Rust

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by khalampre, Feb 20, 2011.

  1. Feb 20, 2011
    khalampre

    khalampre Member

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    I pulled the T-stat housing and there was a lot of what looked like copper corrosion. Under the T-stat there is a ton of rust in the cooling channels of the head. In fact there was so much rust that I pulled the head to have a look. Several of the channels seemed to be pretty obstructed by clumps of rusty (for lack of a better word) stuff.

    I will scrape away with a screw driver, shoot some air and use the shop vac, but is there a good way to get this stuff out? It seems that it would only end up fouling the radiator and T-stat in short order if it were not removed.

    Again, Thank goodness for this forum and everyone in it.
     
  2. Feb 20, 2011
    eddiememphis

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  3. Feb 21, 2011
    givemethewillys

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    would any of those radiator flush products help with that?
     
  4. Feb 21, 2011
    jeep2003

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    that what happens when you run straight water and no antifreze in there
     
  5. Feb 21, 2011
    timgr

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    Modern radiator flush products may work - but I kind of doubt it.

    Rust will dissolve in oxalic acid (OA). OA was the main ingredient in old-fashioned two-part radiator flush products. These products were effective, but were both hazardous (undoubtedly) and environmentally unsound (I presume).

    You can duplicate the old-fashioned two-part radiator flush using oxalic acid and sodium carbonate (washing soda, not baking soda - neutralizes the OA) using the principle ingredients, obtained separately.

    Here's a thread with instructions on how to do such a flush:

    http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-tech-performance/2395596-radiator-cleaner-flush.html

    If you are interested, this is the reaction:

    Oxalic acid H2C2O4

    Fe2O3 + 6H2C2O4 -> 2Fe(C2O4)3{-3} + 3H2O + 6H{+1}

    Apparently iron oxalate is a soluble compound, and drains with the flush.
     
  6. Feb 21, 2011
    khalampre

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    I guess a wire brush it is. The chemicals do not sound to nice to the environment. When I pulled the head the first thing I thought was, "Why did they run straight water".
     
  7. Feb 21, 2011
    J Michael

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    What about taking the head to a radiator shop and having them boil it out?
     
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