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1967 “LOST SERIES” CJ5 wtf (ebay ad)

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by thenoblesock, Apr 8, 2010.

  1. Apr 8, 2010
    thenoblesock

    thenoblesock Tetanus Collector

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    found this on ebay today:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360250155538

    i was a little put off by the odd drivetrain and wanted to get some input from you all. is that legit to run a dana 18 to a centered rear like that? i suppose it's just wider angle like you would get when you lift a jeep but it still seems unorthodox.

    you can read the description in the ebay ad but essentially he's claiming it's some weird "lost series" cj5 that was one of 700 that were made during the willys overland buyout by kaiser, however after about 3 minutes of google search most sources say the buyout happened in april 1953 (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1953-1956-jeep.htm) so things don't really add up there.

    also he claims the previous owner did the conversion so all i can assume is that the last guy wanted a 4spd w. an overdrive, found out you could do it with the dana 18 and just winged it by not swapping out the rear for a proper offset 44 or something else that would be compatible.

    either way an interesting ebay ad to say the least.

    here's the picture he had posted:
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  2. Apr 8, 2010
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Must have re listed. I saw that Jeep (I guess on ebay) several weeks a go at least.
     
  3. Apr 8, 2010
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    R) From the bottom of the forum.

    You didn't have to go that far to figure out he was full of dooky.
     
  4. Apr 8, 2010
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    He had me with the 8" clutch statement.
     
  5. Apr 8, 2010
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    Bet he's tired of feeding it U-joints. :rofl:
     
  6. Apr 8, 2010
    colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

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    I've seen longer wheelbase rigs (Scouts, CJ-6s, Willys wagons) running an 18 TC with a centered rear diff, but never a CJ-5!
     
  7. Apr 8, 2010
    alex211

    alex211 Member

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    I'd think it would vibrate horribly once you got moving, not to mention all the u-joints it would eat.
     
  8. Apr 8, 2010
    cj6/442

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    :rofl:wow dr. sparky - dookie- really (tech term?) I really did just fall off the chair.:rofl:
     
  9. Apr 8, 2010
    the1208

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    FYI you can run a u-joint at an angle like that it just has to stay in the proper plane
     
  10. Apr 8, 2010
    garage gnome

    garage gnome ECJ5 welder

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    The Jalopy has the same deal, just reversed. offset axle on centered tcase. can't wait to fix that!
     
  11. Apr 8, 2010
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    The issues are the short driveshaft length on an ECJ, as well as the compound angle presnted by the centered/offset components. In a short-wheelbase vehicle like this it will vibrate horribly, and eat U-joints very quickly.
     
  12. Apr 8, 2010
    thenoblesock

    thenoblesock Tetanus Collector

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    hahaha glad to have my suspicions confirmed, the clutch thing really struck me as strange since i figured they all used 10.5" or 11" clutches GM style. i sent the guy a string of questions about in in hopes to see what kind of seller he really is, whether he just doesn't know what he has or if he is really just trying to pull a fast one.

    i guess we'll know soon enough. we can at least say the "custom" rear driveshaft is suspect at the very least and that this isn't a LOST SERIES CJ5 hahaha
     
  13. Apr 8, 2010
    kevin-cj3a

    kevin-cj3a New Member

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    The Jeep M715 had an off set xfer case and a centered rear diff no vibrations from the factory. But the drive shaft was a tad bit longer.
    Kevin
     
  14. Apr 9, 2010
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    True, but not applicable here. A M715 or Willys Utility are not SWB vehicles. :beer:
     
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