rear brake drum removal. help!

i have a 1967 cj5 and im trying to remove the rear drums, and there not coming off. i bought a puller and they still wont budge. they spin fine, but the just wont move. any ideas would help....:?

 

Are you using the puller that attaches to the lug bolts, did you pull the cotter pin...if you have the cotter pin out and the axle nut off then you may just have to hit the puller a little harder...depends how long it's been since the last time.

 

yeah, i got the nut off the spindal and the cotter pin. the puller does go over the lugs. i have even cranked the puller as hard as i could, and heated it with a torch, and it still wont move.

 

thanks..

 

sounds like the drum/hub is rusted on the axle, or the brakes have worn a groove into the hub and are wedged in place.

 

are there 3 standard head screws in the drum by chance?

 

not if those screws are holding it on they wont.
some drums have screws.

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thanks for the link, got a idea now for my own puller. w3srl is right though those screws hold the drum to the hub, and he is trying to remove them as a unit (drum & hub) so the screws dont matter as it will all come off together

 

i am wrong .
as per usual....

 

That hub dosn't come off very easy. You need a very heavy duty puller and a sledge hammer. Mine took a whole night, a bent heavy, heavy duty puller, patience, faith, and a near hospital visit to get both off. Good Luck

 

eh some come of easy, some it takes a act of god to get them off. leave the nut on a few turns if its stuck when it does let loose it is gonna have alot of enegery to do some damage if its not contained, if it hit you in the leg i would say instant go to the hospital trip, in the head no doubt you would be dead!!!

 

Me thinks you should stop pulling on the hub and work on the drum it's self.
I had a HECK of a time yanking off my one hub. Actually broke a puller arm, and had to use a really old one I had in the bottom of the box.
If you want to go hub route, spray penerating oil in the keyway and put the puller on and strike the top of the puller's thread, (shocking it) that MAY help.
I found on drums heat is mute, as the cast iron asborbs the heat and in the end you'll ruin the drum.
The drum sits on the hub, so either the rust is holding on tight or the brakes are in a groove.
Spray some penerating oil in each of the lug nut holes, spinning it.
Also spray @ where the center of the drum is on the hub, don't be chinsey with the spray, SPRAY it! Tranny fluid works,as well as Kerosene
Take the lug nuts and start them to flush with the studs top, but not touching the drum.
Take a BFH, (Big Freakin Hammer) and strike the face of the drop, kinda hard, (that's why you put the lug nut on, so you won't "kill" a stud thread.
Next hit the outside of the drum turning the drum.
(Careful of the dust, it's asbestos)
Also back off the brakes as far as you can, (they could be stuck on a lip)
Sometimes they can be nasty, but enough penerating oil and hammer hits SHOULD pop them off.
Good luck
Joe
If it was easy, everyone would own a jeep!

 

walicks web site just poasted drum removal on their site my 67 didnt have screws put the puller and beat it with a 3lb hammer look at walicks web site they poast on my facebook if ur on their friends list they make poasts like drum removal with pics good info good luck george

 

spell check.
hope you dont mind.

 

yeh right

 

I had no trouble getting the hub/drums off on my 1962 cj5 using the hub puller. It has the 3 machine screws. Driver's side drum and hub separated with a few sharp hammer blows.
Passenger side still has hub and drum stuck together. Soaked in blaster for several days, hammered, even used hammer bit on air hammer. Tried heat, but didn't get it red hot as I'm afraid of warping something. I'm thinking about buying new brake drums and a new hub. Has anyone tried pressing the hub from the drum using a shop press while hammering on the drum?

 

Shock the drum in the flat areas between the studs, hitting hard with a BFH.