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Couple of questions.

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by stpltn250r, Mar 12, 2010.

  1. Mar 12, 2010
    stpltn250r

    stpltn250r New Member

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    I have recently acquired a 1975 cj-5. has had a 350 small block put in. not very well i must say. they put 2''x2'' square tubing under the frame and then welded the spring hanger to it to give it a lift. the put 42x15x15 tires on it. lets just say there are now know teethe left on the front differential. here are my questions.

    1. Are there some measurment i can get to make sure the frame is square.
    (noticed some cracks in the frames by the motor mounts.)

    2. Are the stock axles very well for on and off road.

    3. What is the best axle upgrade. Will be a daily driver when finished.

    4. What is the best lift upgrade. What springs will fit for this style. Where would be a good place to buy spring bushings.

    5. What would be a great place to buy OEM parts. (Quadratec is the only place i know of.)

    I will have more later but need to get a few out of the way. I will be taking the body off to start on the frame. clean it up and get it painted. they go suspension, drivetrain, then body and electrical. I have a good bit of work in front of me, so all the help i can get is well needed and appreciated.

    I will post some pics of it tommorrow.

    Chris
     
  2. Mar 13, 2010
    grannyscj

    grannyscj Headed to the Yukon

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    To check square on your frame find a repeatable point on both sides, say xmember and bumper or shock hanger (if it hasn't been moved). Then measure side to side and measure an X from xmember to shock hanger both ways. They should be equal. Get rid of the 44" tires and the axles will be fine. No bigger than 33" for stock axles. As far as upgrades you're limited for a daily driver you should already have a Dana 30NT up front, probably an AMC20 in back. You might find a flanged D44 for the back but they're rare. Anything else and you'll have to live with them sticking out too far or pay for them to be cut down. There's several different lifts, pick and choose, they're all the same (spring rate's the only difference). http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25203 for parts.:v6:
     
  3. Mar 13, 2010
    djljeep

    djljeep Meandering Aimlessly

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    a 75 would have a d44 with one piece shafts. 72-75(intermediates) and 86 had one piece shaft d44s
     
  4. Mar 13, 2010
    stpltn250r

    stpltn250r New Member

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    Here the pic of it.

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    Pic of Dash

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  5. Mar 13, 2010
    stpltn250r

    stpltn250r New Member

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    Motor

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    Transmission

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  6. Mar 13, 2010
    stpltn250r

    stpltn250r New Member

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    Dana 44-1 Rear Axle

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    Rear of transfer case

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  7. Mar 13, 2010
    stpltn250r

    stpltn250r New Member

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    VIN tag

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    Now the problem areas;

    Motor mount

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  8. Mar 13, 2010
    stpltn250r

    stpltn250r New Member

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    Old motor mount

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    Shock mount

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  9. Mar 13, 2010
    stpltn250r

    stpltn250r New Member

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    Rear lift

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    Front lift has 2x2 square tubing on rear of leaf mount
     
  10. Mar 13, 2010
    stpltn250r

    stpltn250r New Member

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    Clutch linkage and crack in frame

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    Front differential in dana 30

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  11. Mar 14, 2010
    Jbostick

    Jbostick Member

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    wow! narrow tracks and 42s! at least you can sell the tires and make some money
     
  12. Mar 14, 2010
    HeavyIron

    HeavyIron Member 2024 Sponsor

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    What kind of a transfer case is that? It's a beast!
    Also it looks like the gear ratio in the front axle was 47/11 - 4.27
     
  13. Mar 14, 2010
    Mike S

    Mike S Sponsor

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    No form of isolation in the motor mounts will destroy a frame.

    After you get the cracks repaired, put in motor mounts with rubber isolators.
     
  14. Mar 14, 2010
    stpltn250r

    stpltn250r New Member

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    And now that i have looked at a cj manual it looks like it is actually a 1973 cj5. the transfer case IS massive. like i saidi plan on taking the body off and starting on the frame then the suspension. What are good leaf spring swaps from newer models. And doesn't someone make a wheelbase kit. that you put on new rear panels and it comes with brackets that bring the rear leaf hanger back a ways. i think rustys offroad had something.
     
  15. Mar 14, 2010
    Jbostick

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    I think old man emu has a kit that uses YJ springs.
     
  16. Mar 14, 2010
    dudegriffin

    dudegriffin Member

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    Your jeep is a 1973 and original paint was fairway green poly! I had a 81 cj7 with 40s and stock axles great in the mud but not for daily driver. I would use the same springs you have only spring under. cut out the 2x2 tubing and look into doing a shackle reversal. Looks like a three inch body lift that i would return to stock and then you could lose the transfer case drop kit? :beer:
     
  17. Mar 16, 2010
    Okkie

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    Sorry OT, but I like that sticker next to the steering wheel!:D

    That is a beast!!!
     
  18. Mar 17, 2010
    stpltn250r

    stpltn250r New Member

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    found that the tranny is a GM Muncie SM465. Dont know what the transfer case is yet.
     
  19. Mar 17, 2010
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    It's definitely not an NP 205 or 203. Looks kinda like a Rockwell but it's been years since I've dealt with one. Should be a tag on it somewhere.
     
  20. Mar 17, 2010
    dave74

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    Yep, Rockwell T221 used by GM up to 69' I believe.
     
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