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Drawbar Rear Bumper Bracing

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by sbu22, Dec 3, 2009.

  1. Dec 3, 2009
    sbu22

    sbu22 Member

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    The plan is to relocate the gas tank tank to the rear on my 60 cj5. Looked at Boyink's excellent page and, as with mine, the relocation will require the removal of the Drawbar Rear Bumper Bracing. Assuming that I do not plan to tow with the CJ, does this bracing serve any other important function (say, frame stiffening)? Doesn't look like it does by my eye. Thanks.
     
  2. Dec 3, 2009
    bkd

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    yea I think you need it there to tie everything together......there are 2 body supports on top of it as well

    I used some 1/8" channel and made a replacement that was much stronger
    Jim S.
     
  3. Dec 3, 2009
    duffer

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    I am sure it does impart some strength, especially if you were to hit something that would tend to rack the frame. That said, if you wacked it that hard, it would probably be totaled anyway. I removed those braces in 1977 in my 3B and it has been wheeled a lot since with no problems. I also removed them in my CJ5, also without any ill effects. Not something I would worry about.
     
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    bkd

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    to clarify I too run a rear tank and removed the "V'' bracing......I then upgraded the last crossmember/drawbar with channel :beer:
     
  5. Dec 3, 2009
    sbu22

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    Thanks, Jim & Duffer. One more item to add to the list.
     
  6. Dec 3, 2009
    timgr

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    Look at an intermediate with a drawbar. That's the design you should emulate. The intermediate years have the same ladder frame without the V brace and their drawbar has additional braces to the outside of the frame rails.
     
  7. Dec 3, 2009
    gibson-d@sbcglobal.net

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    My '71, with rear tank, has a triangle tied to rear x member and side of frame. Don't know what happened to the left side. Is this factory or after market?
     
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    timgr

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    Factory. There also should be a couple of bars to the frame from the ends of the drawbar.

    Sorry my CJ does not have a drawbar. Maybe someone here with the factory setup can post a few pics.
     
  9. Dec 3, 2009
    timgr

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    Maybe this will help.

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  10. Dec 4, 2009
    Mcruff

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    Yep thats exactly how my 71 is put together. Thanks Tim I'm gonna save that image for use later.
     
  11. Dec 4, 2009
    nickmil

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    Me too. That stuff is missing on my daughter's '70. Picking one up this weekend and gonna modify the earlier one to fit that mounting style. I want to switch her from an under seat tank to one in the back also.
     
  12. Dec 4, 2009
    timgr

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    Anybody know why the triangular gusset is only the driver's side and not the passenger's side?
     
  13. Dec 4, 2009
    Mcruff

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    Fule tank filler hose and vent line prevent it, plus the brace for the spare tire mount.
     
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    matthew johnson

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    Why switch locations instead of running dual tanks?
     
  15. Dec 4, 2009
    Mcruff

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    So there is no smell of fuel in the cokpit or chance of fuel leaking and causing a fire. Besides it gives more space for storage and the rear fuel tank is at least 4 gallons larger then the inside tank and can be even larger.
     
  16. Dec 4, 2009
    nickmil

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    For the win! Much safer than having the fuel tank inside the vehicle.
     
  17. Dec 4, 2009
    lynn

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    I've had one of those triangular gussets laying around since 1995, never could remember where it was used.
    <click> <save> Thanks Tim!
     
  18. Dec 4, 2009
    Dandy

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    Hey Tim, could you tell me what book you got that out of ?

    Thanks.
     
  19. Dec 4, 2009
    timgr

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    1974-80 Jeep Parts Catalog.
     
  20. Dec 5, 2009
    sbu22

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    Thanks for all the info.
     
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