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Stop Light switch on 72 cj-5

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by guitarmikeb, Oct 15, 2009.

  1. Oct 15, 2009
    guitarmikeb

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    So.....Bought this jeep, has turned out to be a very interesting electrical project. Many previous owners has led to many cut/hacked/jacked up/mismatched colored wires. Now that I'm done with my rant, I wanted to ask about the stock brake light switch. I ordered a replacement brake light switch and it turns out to be nothing like the one that is in the jeep.

    THe one in the jeep appears to be a newer electrical style switch. It's mounted on the brake pedal assembly with two wires run to it and a newer style push in switch. The one that I ordered (for a 72) came in and is presenting it self to be a fluid pressure switch.

    So my question is, what kind of switch was on a stock 72 jeep, and where was it located. If it was located on the brake pedal assembly what actually depressed the switch when you let off of the brake pedal? Any pics or help would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. Oct 15, 2009
    kunaji

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    On a '72 the brake switch is located on the underside of the master cylinder and is a fluid pressure switch.
     
  3. Oct 15, 2009
    guitarmikeb

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    exactly what I needed to know. THank you.
     
  4. Oct 16, 2009
    73cj5

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    The underdash switch is also factory aswell. I have a pic of my 73 setup which I can post.
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  5. Oct 16, 2009
    73cj5

    73cj5 Member

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    Let me add:
    Either will work,I would swing for the mechanical underdash switch for its simplicity,and fewer parts in the brake system.
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  6. Oct 16, 2009
    timgr

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    My '73 had the under-dash switch, but I'm not sure about the '72. Could have been either.

    The '73-style under dash switch was replaced by a simpler pushbutton in 1976 (?), activated by a paddle on the brake pedal.
     
  7. Oct 16, 2009
    kunaji

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    Perhaps the different brake switches also were used depending on which pedals you have, ie, cable clutch was pressure switch on the master cylinder and the under dash switch was used with the clutch linkage. My '72 has the original cable clutch.
     
  8. Oct 16, 2009
    sparky

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    The '72 that I worked on had a pressure switch on the MC as well.
     
  9. Oct 16, 2009
    autotech1984

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    My 72 had a pressure switch on the M/C before I got rid of the cable clutch and converted to disc brakes.
     
  10. Oct 16, 2009
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    Mine had the switch under the dash on the brake pedal assembly. However it was stripped out and not functioning. I removed it and mounted the switch on the master cylinder. I'm curious though if there is a particular type of connector that goes on those round terminals. Anyone have any idea? here's a pic of the termianls that I'm looking for a specific connector for.

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  11. Oct 17, 2009
    crash

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    It is a flat connector with 2 slots for the studs - slides on sideways over both terminals at once.
     
  12. Oct 17, 2009
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    Any idea where I might could find one?
     
  13. Oct 17, 2009
    LBOGRS

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    It would be the same style connector that attaches to the back-up light switch on your transmission. Not a big deal if you can't get hold of one - you can just use the brass contacts (available at any FLAPS) without the plastic connector that they would be clipped into. Just be sure to secure them so they can't touch each other and give you a false brake signal.

    Just FYI, my '75 CJ5 has the brake light switch that goes between the master cylinder pushrod and the brake pedal, under the dash. There is also a pressure switch on the brake proportioning valve that's mounted to the frame, although this one is only to signal a loss of hydraulic pressure and thus potential break failure. I don't think this existed yet on a '72.
     
  14. Oct 17, 2009
    guitarmikeb

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    Would you by chance have a pic of what you are speaking of? Also what is a FLAPS? I don't have any idea what these connectors look like as my vehicle did not have one when I purchased it.
     
  15. Oct 17, 2009
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    FLAPS
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  16. Oct 17, 2009
    LBOGRS

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    If you can wait until tomorrow, I can snap a picture and add it to the post. Too dark right now.
     
  17. Oct 17, 2009
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  18. Oct 18, 2009
    guitarmikeb

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    thanks guys. I appreciate the reading kunaji. that's the route I'm gonna take. I'll just go to napa and get a sl144 switch with screw in terminals.
     
  19. Oct 21, 2009
    jeeper78

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    I honestly hate the MC brake light setup. I have no idea how many of those little pressure switches I have replaced over the years... I want to convert mine to the pedal type switch some day.
     
  20. Oct 21, 2009
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    WHat kind of switch set up did you have in mind? Do you have a weblink to a particular style of pedal setup? I'm interested in redoing my pedal set up, but haven't done any research on available types of pedal mount switches.
     
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