Photos of Turbo Diesel conversion

A couple of members have asked about my Turbo Diesel conversion so I thought I'd post a few photos. One has to view this in the context that there are no spares whatsoever in Thailand for the CJ5 so anything and everything must be modified to keep this very old Jeep running. The few truly original examples only get driven to shows and these are mainly MB's and 'MUTTS'. On the technical side the motor is a Toyota 2C Turbo diesel mated to a Toyota 5 speed transmission with transfer box with a Dana 27 and a Dana 44 in 5:38 ratio. The brakes are servo assisted discs in front and larger drums in the rear. The parking brake lever came off in my hand when the brake line blew out as I was descending a mountain in the north of Thailand. Still no parking brake.

 

No firewall trimming although there is a slight body-lift. About 2 1/2" at the grill and only 1" at the tailgate. I think the lift was mainly to clear the tall radiator. It's like driving uphill all the time! Actually, I can't take any credit for the conversion......it was done by a PO. His eyesight wasn't quite right since the motor leans slightly to the right and the transmission slightly left. A small misalignment when modifying the bell-housing

 

what are the specs on that engine.....displacement, hp, torque.

i'd love to know what MPG you get with that.


I keep dreaming of putting a cummins 4bt in my CJ6....but it prolly wont happen

great work otherwise....thats really darn cool

 

I have to say, that is a very nice installation, some of jeep's factory work dosent look that clean.

As much as I hate to admit, toyota makes some fairly stout running gear. You have a nice durable set up there. I think we are all jealous. Diesels are desirable and rare here in the states.

 

That looks like it fits in there perfect, almost factory!

 

My '74 2C-T is an over-head-camshaft inter-cooled turbo diesel of 1974 cubic centimeters displacement and produces 84 hp @ 4000 RPM (I think).

I get about 12 kilometers per liter. I'm not sure what that is in mpg but I'm guessing that it must twice as much as the original gasoline motor with its 3-speed box. I only use 5th gear as an overdrive on the highway.

The only gasoline vehicles here in Thailand are small saloons like the Honda Jazz or the Toyota Camry. All the gasoline taxis are running LPG conversions. The vast majority of vehicles are turbo-diesel SUV's or pick-ups like my 2000 model Ford Ranger, built in Thailand under license.

The 2C-T probably came from a 'Liteace', 'Townace' or 'Camry' and was mated to a 'Hilux' 4 x 4 box.

There are engine shops here full of used Japanese diesels imported from Japan where it is against the law to run a motor after a certain period. Hence a big export market in used motors that have been renewed rather than re-built.

 

From www.onlineconversion.com "12 kilometers/liter = 28.22575 miles/gallon"

I got bored

 

Cool deal man, would defiantly not be afraid to have one of those if parts avaliability was better,.

 

Sorry, I said my motor was a '74 but that's just what it says in the book (Title) which is all wrong anyway. It's probably a lot later than that. They cost about US$1,000 in town. Too heavy for Fedex I suppose.....

 

very cool. FWIW, a Land Rover 2.25 diesel would most likely be a fairly easy swap into a flattie, as would a 70's model Mercedes Benz diesel out of the 190 D. Both can be picked up fairly cheap....

 

:drool::drool::drool: that is sweetR)R) wish i had that setup

 

Looks like very clean work and an awesome setup. Thanks for the pictures.

 

Hahaha the 190d, i drove one of those once, slowest car I've ever driven. Merging on the the highway in jersey was a religous experience. Once it was up to speed though, it cruised quite nicely.

 

you are right, they are NOT fast, but then again, neither is an F134

they are torquey and I have seen several put in 88" Land Rovers, to good effect.

 

Did you mention a "big export business"? How would someone get linked into that?


Mark

 

Mark, I only know that we have engine shops here in Thailand that are wall to wall with recent model diesel motors that have (apparently) been removed from cars, pickups, buses and heavy trucks. The heavy truck brand is 'Hino' and Izuzu, the smaller engines are Izuzu, Toyota, Mitsubishi etc. My understanding is that these motors are not from crashed vehicles but from Japanese registered vehicles that have passed a certain mileage or period of service after which they are no longer allowed to be used. This has to do with the very strict Japanese emission regulations. This would seem to make sense in that there are a large number of heavy truck and public service vehicle engines which of course clock up mileage fast. Thai companies import these good condition engines and re-sell them to people who need to re-engine their old trucks and buses and fishing boats Virtually the entire fishing fleet is powered by Hino truck motors. In Thailand, and most 'Third World' developing countries the emission and vehicle safety laws are virtually non-existent so one can keep swapping out motors over and over. To get into the business I imagine that the first move would be to contact the Trade Department of the Japanese Embassy whose job it is to connect potential customers to their export market. Incidently, I drive a Ford Ranger XLT 4-door, 4 x4 that is built here under contract to Ford. It has a Ford 2.5 liter Turbo Diesel developing 116 hp. Great truck and has never had a fault since I bought it new in 2000. The current models have 3.0 liter 'Commonrail' injection diesels and really do have more power and economy. If you make any progress I'd be interested to know.

 

Not considering shipping cost, how much (approx. USD) would an engine like the Toyota you have in your Jeep cost? I may very well look into the JApan market too.

As you can tell I am very intrigued with this idea.

 

There used to be a company that imported good used Japanese engines to the US, but I haven't seen their ads lately. It may still be possible to get these engines in the USA.

Keeping an old car in Japan gets very expensive... but I don't think it's really due to something as benign as the emissions regulations. Old cars are nonexistant in Japan because the state goes out of its way to discourage people from owning cars.* Thus Japan has a regulatory structure specifically meant to keep old cars off the highway and the cost of owning a car high. Cars 3 years old or older require a 'Shaken' or maintenance certificate, which costs at least 100,000 yen (about 100 yen/usd) for the smallest cars and goes up with the car's size. The certificate must be renewed every other year. Cars more than a few years old are only worth their scrap value in Japan.

* Note the traffic congestion is terrible, so there's some reason behind the situation. Hybrids do really well in Japan becasue of all the stop-and-go driving.

 

Last time I enquired they were selling the Toyota 2C-T for about 30,000 Thai Baht ($1,000 US). Not cheap but cars are very expensive here. Any Jeep that is drivable costs $5,000 !! Adam