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Lets talk venting

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by DanStew, Jun 10, 2007.

  1. Jun 10, 2007
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

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    It is not something that is new, but at Uwharrie i decided it was time to try and get the hot air from out of the engine compartment. I have dual electric fans and the engine temp is just fine, but boy is the hood and fenders HOT to the touch. I do not want to louver the hood because of rain getting in. But i think i may either cut out the fender wells and install luovers in the side of the fenders. So what have you guys done to get the heat out of the engine compartment? I know i am not the only one with an aluminum intake that heats up everything :(
     
  2. Jun 11, 2007
    DanStew

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    Bueller? Anyone? Am i alone :(
     
  3. Jun 11, 2007
    Txjake

    Txjake I wrenched with Sparky

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    I think that some louvering on the fenderwells might be a good thing. I am considering that. If you take out the whole fenderwell, you are gonna get a lot of gunk up in th eengine compartment. Maybe not an issue, but if you run in the mud....
     
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    DanStew

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    I am pondering on making some rubber mats to fit the side. Fortuantely mud isnt the only thing up here, but it is still an option for me :)
     
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    timgr

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    You have headers, Dan?

    An aluminum intake should not radiate any more heat than a steel intake unless the exhaust heat riser is blocked closed. The aluminum is more conductive, but that shouldn't affect radiation into the compartment - unless I'm missing something. You could block off the exhaust passage completely and be fine in your part of the country (I'd think) especially on a hobby car.

    Compare your under-hood temperature to some other cars. I'd expect it's not that different, but it seems hot since there's no insulation on the underside of the hood like there is in a passenger car.
     
  6. Jun 11, 2007
    kaiser_willys

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    old dodge power wagon that i had was louvered in the fenderwell area from factory,gotta help,is there some way that you can vent the hood as so not to let rain in? that would make the most sense since heat rises
     
  7. Jun 11, 2007
    DanStew

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    No headers. Got rid of them a long time ago :) I am not sure if it is a normal feel for the hood and fenders being that hot. I can udnerstand that the new cars have the insulation to keep it cool. It just kind of concerns me that it is that hot. I know with the aluminum intake i had to put a spacer between the carb and intake to keep the carb from boiling the gas. I am also thinking about putting small pancake fans on the inside of the fenders to pull the air out of the compartment but thatis probalby getting a bit complicated for what i want to do.
     
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    kaiser_willys

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    just a note,a 1969 chevelle i had got pretty warm as the insulation had fell out,felt pretty darn good when out bull s#@%ing with the guys on a sat night in the fall of the year
     
  9. Jun 11, 2007
    m38willys

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    Complicated? Danstew? whats that? R)

    seriously, I would try and maybe vent the inner lower fenders a bit more than normal and see if that does anything? have you measured the temp?
     
  10. Jun 11, 2007
    DanStew

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    not really measured the temp. i did the forearm test and it failed ;)
     
  11. Jun 11, 2007
    timgr

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    There ya' go! An oven thermometer would work. Tape it to the underside of the hood, and do the same in your passenger car. I'd expect underhood temps would be 150F or so. A surface at anything more than about 125F (50C) you can't keep your hand on for any more than a few moments.
     
  12. Jun 11, 2007
    lynn

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    I know that '98 ZJs had hood louvers in the 5.9 Limited model. I'm sure these were designed to prevent rain-in, but allow heat out. Know anyone with a 5.9 ZJ?
    I know some guys were removing these from wrecks for use on other rigs... you might even be able to order them from a dealer or body shop...
     
  13. Jun 11, 2007
    mb82

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    Heck Dan just make lunch on your hood.
     
  14. Jun 11, 2007
    nickmil

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    Not sure if it was for heat dissipation, guessing it is, but many flatty's were louvered on the inner fender wells. Just some simple louvers help a lot as it allows the "dead" air in the engine compartment start flowing out. Nickmil
     
  15. Jun 11, 2007
    godevil

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    Geezz Dan,
    It was 95 degrees in the shade on the trail everything was hot.
    Didn't you let all the heat out when you flopped it on its side??
    Sorry, just had to rib you some.
    Donnie
     
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    DanStew

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    It is funny, i really didnt think it was that Hot. It was hot, but there wasnt as much humidity ;) The dust.. gosh that sucked.
     
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    sparky

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    I was thinking about some Grand Prixs as well Lynn.

    You might check some of the OEM applications on car hoods Dan.
     
  18. Jun 11, 2007
    omix-ada

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    You could also try using some hood insulation. To cut down on on cooking the bottom side of your hood.
     
  19. Jun 11, 2007
    Jeepman252

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    Realize too that when your wheelin, your not getting the air flow through your engine compartment like you are when driving down the road, so it normally would tend to get hotter.

    I think a stronger or another type fan or the louvers would be your only options.

    I think too, that insulating would only make it worse. Its going to want to hold the heat in. Right now, your hood and fenders are acting as a heat sink to get the heat away from the engine. Insulation may make the hood/fenders cooler to the touch on the outside, but inside, it may make your engine bay even hotter.
     
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    jd7

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    [​IMG]NACA duct/scoop....maybe small ones on the side of the hood....like portholes on a Buick. Just remember three portholes if it's six four if it's an eight cylinder.;).......seriously would move a good bit of air in/out. I put acouple on a 924T I had years ago just for same reason you want to on the "Bus" and it lowered the underhood temp signficantly.:beer:
     
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