King Pin confusion

Is the upper king pin on a dana 25 knuckle supposed to be splined? My lower pin is not and all my parts research says that I need part #'s 52940 and 52941 for both the upper and the lower bearings and cups but my upper pin is not going to work. Am I missing something? The frame and body of this jeep have shown pretty good front end damage so I dont think it would be a stretch to say that the front axle is a transplant but from all outside appearances it "is" a 25. I can take pics of the king pin if necessary.

Thanks in advance

John Hicks


1960 CJ5

 

Ummmmm are you sure its spined or did the needle bearings "spine it"

On mine one of the needle bearings ate into the king pin enuff for it to look like it was machined spined.I replaced all my pins and needle bearings.

 

Here is pic of what I have.

 

Well, thats what the bottom bearing looks like. The brass piece in my picture is the same size as the new bearings I got and even fits in the new cup. But there are no moveable parts on it. There is a channel that swirls around it from the top to bottom (grease channel???) I was really hoping that someone was going to tell me that I had the wrong parts. bummer.

Can a guy buy a new pin for the top?

 

Perfect. that is the part I was looking at earlier. I have lost a little faith in what I have and was a little hesitant to buy it. Here is a better shot of the "bearing" next to a new bearing.

 

that's interesting indeed
gonna have to dig thru the old books and see if I can ID that puppy

 

Any info would be appreciated. At this point I am just hoping that P/N 910901 from Walck's will replace the splined pin in the picture. This jeep has had a few suprises hidden in it. I'm still trying to find out where the engine came from.

Thanks,

John

 

The splined king pin and bronze bushing is from a Scout Dana 27. Scouts used a bronze bushing on the bottom IIRC and a bearing like Jeep's use on the top. Got some more if you want'emR) . Nickmil

 

Nick beat me to it.
The Scout parts book shows that style.
you could probably grind the splined portion of the cap off and use it that way for the bearing.

 

Thanks for all the input. i have one more thing I was hoping someone could answer. Will Walcks P/N 910901 replace my existing splined pin and cap? I have already bought the bearing and cup and was hoping I could just buy a new pin and use the "correct" bearings.

Also, the diff has "25" on it. are there other markings I should be looking for that would identify it as a Scout axle as opposed to a jeep axle or were they interchangeable?

Thanks again,

John

 

i think the reason they did the splined deal was some where along the line they have had trouble with the king pin spinning inside the bearing,just a theroy